All DMA's now Western Arc

[navychop]

Probably right after StarLink starts carrying the full Dish programming suite.

 

[HipKat]

Exactly - back when Dish did the transition from QPSK to 8PSK, they knew exactly how many people had which receivers and who would lose service if they made the conversion. Dish has to know how many are setup for WA vs EA and are making calculated decisions.

Well, you would think so, but you would be surprised how many times I've gone out to do an arc swap, and they were already on Western. One of the reasons is that technicians in recent years are so bad at their jobs that they can't pull the equipment they use on the work order or they pull the wrong equipment.

 

[MikeD-C05]

Not a simple repoint, many will require relocation of the dish. Sounds like a nightmare.

I think it will be a race between customer Churn and Repointing the satellite dishes. Who do you think will be quicker?

 

[BradleyD]

If I keep it, I would have to get some trees cut down. The old western arc dish at my house I think will not make over the trees now, but can check again. I think I could move it from eastern arc where it is now just a bit of distance away to go western. Trees would have to come down for relocation, but I think it would work.

I have the pointing angles from when I moved to eastern arc. Also have western arc angles. With 129 out of the picture, is there a change in angle or elevation with only 2 sats. With eastern arc, it did not change although the one sat (I think at 77) is not used.

 

[HipKat]

If I keep it, I would have to get some trees cut down. The old western arc dish at my house I think will not make over the trees now, but can check again. I think I could move it from eastern arc where it is now just a bit of distance away to go western. Trees would have to come down for relocation, but I think it would work.

I have the pointing angles from when I moved to eastern arc. Also have western arc angles. With 129 out of the picture, is there a change in angle or elevation with only 2 sats. With eastern arc, it did not change although the one sat (I think at 77) is not used.

There is. For my area, the .2 WA settings were 34 elevation and for the d500 kit, 38 elevation, plus a slight pull back to the left

 

[telstar_1]

I have no line of sight without issues. When do they plan on shutting down the eastern arch ?

Operational savings. Too few subs left to spread all the infrastructural costs over. Obviously prepared to write some off who can't do WA.

Funny how after rolling out all those satellite locations, dishes and switchgear, we're headed back to 119 only and a Dish 500 if you want locals.

The original premise (and promise) of DBS was a very small dish, and then a mad rush to locals and other factors resulted in "antenna growth," featuring among greatest hits the like of SuperDiSH.

 

[telstar_1]

If I keep it, I would have to get some trees cut down. The old western arc dish at my house I think will not make over the trees now, but can check again. I think I could move it from eastern arc where it is now just a bit of distance away to go western. Trees would have to come down for relocation, but I think it would work.

I have the pointing angles from when I moved to eastern arc. Also have western arc angles. With 129 out of the picture, is there a change in angle or elevation with only 2 sats. With eastern arc, it did not change although the one sat (I think at 77) is not used.

There is no change in aiming of dish to receive from WA. A DiSH 500 still receives from 110 and 119. A DiSH 1000 still receives from 110 and 119 but no longer receives (nor needs) 129. If repointing from EA to WA an LNBF swap may be needed for proper alignment of 110 and 119.

 

[BradleyD]

So with the 1000.2 (I think) on eastern arc, either bring my own locals or get at Dish500 and may have to have lnb changes for WA?

I really like Dish. If they wanted to go through the internet for all channels, I would do it. The H3 interface is much better than youtube, comcast, and direct.

 

[scoob83]

I think it will be a race between customer Churn and Repointing the satellite dishes. Who do you think will be quicker?

Love Dish, but if this is true, I am already planning to cancel when my contract is up. I just have zero LOS with WA. I already started pricing out Spectrum's cable service as a replacement.

 

[bogieman1958]

I have from day one (many years back) installed and maintained my own DN systems. Last time was the upgrade of lnb's and move to dish 1000 EA to get my locals and added a H3. I figured that would be my last move and didn't document anything )part numbers, aiming etc. I do remember being able to use my old receiver to aim the dish (no way to aim anymore). Old receiver is gone, I am old so the mind is gone, and I still hate the thought of throwing the dice and having a dish tech that wasn't an ex-con come to my house.
At the chance of wasting you guys time, is there a tutorial of some sort to help me get back to the WA? I still have my original dish500 dish in the barn, and currently running an h3 with a wired Joey. Lnb goes to a node (or something) under the house and then separate cables to the H3 and Joey. I have CRS syndrome (can't remember sh*t), and don't know where to start. I guess, after the manual work, I would have to call Dish for them to do some switching on their end.
I would appreciate any help, but I get it if no one has the time to hold an old man's hand.

 

[reubenray]

Love Dish, but if this is true, I am already planning to cancel when my contract is up. I just have zero LOS with WA. I already started pricing out Spectrum's cable service as a replacement.

My Dish contract runs out in February. I have Cox internet which was bought out by Spectrum. I may look into Spectrum to see what options they have to replace Dish. I have no idea if they have DVR's or not.

 

[JSheridan]

So with the 1000.2 (I think) on eastern arc, either bring my own locals or get at Dish500 and may have to have lnb changes for WA?

I really like Dish. If they wanted to go through the internet for all channels, I would do it. The H3 interface is much better than youtube, comcast, and direct.

It's very, very likely that they'll leave whatever locals are on EA alone, as long as EA exists, which I'm guessing will be about 6-8 years.

 

[JSheridan]

Love Dish, but if this is true, I am already planning to cancel when my contract is up. I just have zero LOS with WA. I already started pricing out Spectrum's cable service as a replacement.

EA will probably be around for 6-8 more years so I wouldn't start worrying about it just yet.

 

[telstar_1]

EA will probably be around for 6-8 more years so I wouldn't start worrying about it just yet.

I thought this thing was fairly imminent. If not, then why all of the repoints being assigned? Just in cases where locals are moving over? They're still going to have all the major stuff in the east for years?

So with the 1000.2 (I think) on eastern arc, either bring my own locals or get at Dish500 and may have to have lnb changes for WA?

I really like Dish. If they wanted to go through the internet for all channels, I would do it. The H3 interface is much better than youtube, comcast, and direct.

I believe the 1000 designated for EA was the 1000.4. 1000.2 is for WA, the difference being the LNBF type (differing feed spacing).

I have from day one (many years back) installed and maintained my own DN systems. Last time was the upgrade of lnb's and move to dish 1000 EA to get my locals and added a H3. I figured that would be my last move and didn't document anything )part numbers, aiming etc. I do remember being able to use my old receiver to aim the dish (no way to aim anymore). Old receiver is gone, I am old so the mind is gone, and I still hate the thought of throwing the dice and having a dish tech that wasn't an ex-con come to my house.
At the chance of wasting you guys time, is there a tutorial of some sort to help me get back to the WA? I still have my original dish500 dish in the barn, and currently running an h3 with a wired Joey. Lnb goes to a node (or something) under the house and then separate cables to the H3 and Joey. I have CRS syndrome (can't remember sh*t), and don't know where to start. I guess, after the manual work, I would have to call Dish for them to do some switching on their end.
I would appreciate any help, but I get it if no one has the time to hold an old man's hand.

A DiSH 500 would be perfect for WA conversion (yes, back to 1999). Might need to get the newest DPPH Twin LNBF to go on it.

There should be some means on the hoppers of bringing up a signal strength screen for aiming.

 

[Cold Irons]

EA will probably be around for 6-8 more years so I wouldn't start worrying about it just yet.

...and in that case (like usual) I won't panic. In 5 years I'll probably be forced into using Streaming, so it won't much matter, but in any event, I won't worry about a re-point. I've been on EA from 2001, both in my previous rural location & now small city (big town?). I'll have to check my LOS later.

 

[navychop]

IF you are going to leave Dish, and I don't recommend it, please consider non cable options. $

StarLink is just one of many Internet Service Providers. Even with some obstructions, you may get a full signal. Many Streaming options available.

 

[sklunk]

That's a generic warning that shows up for signal loss. I would get your dish peaked out

Could be, but it only happens sporadically and on 1 of my locals.
Both 72 and 61.5 show signals in the upper 60s (very good for our area), are green, and Verified. We almost never lose signal even during heavy storms.

So could be alignment, but all diagnostics seem to be good .....

 

[JSheridan]

I thought this thing was fairly imminent. If not, then why all of the repoints being assigned? Just in cases where locals are moving over? They're still going to have all the major stuff in the east for years?

I don't think anybody outside of Dish, and maybe not even them, know what the plan is. I just know that Dish recently extended the lease on the Nimiq satellite at 72deg for several more years.

 

[JSheridan]

...and in that case (like usual) I won't panic. In 5 years I'll probably be forced into using Streaming, so it won't much matter, but in any event, I won't worry about a re-point. I've been on EA from 2001, both in my previous rural location & now small city (big town?). I'll have to check my LOS later.

I'm hoping that sometime (hopefully soon) Dish will come out with a system like DirecTV Stream. Actually, IMHO, it's kind of surprising that they haven't already.

 

[jackson85]

We get that here in southern KY. all the time. We also get the channels switching to streaming all the time when there isn't a cloud in the sky. And when it is stormy they won't even stream and I know it's not my internet because I will be online and it works perfectly.

Same thing happened the other Night with the Channels Switching to Streaming. And there was no clouds or Rain Now, the other day on our Local CBS,the Picture Pixalated like Crazy. My Daughter commented and Complained that she couldn't watch the Young and the Restless that was recorded