Antenna direction in NYC

[jeevak]

https://www.rabbitears.info/s/2823068

Folks - oddly I went from 60 digital channels in 2018 to 20 but not sure when it exactly occurred till I lost Fox5 this week so can't watch FIFA. I have the Winegard HD7000R and they are sending me a transformer in case it's the issue. I was pointing to 300 in the past but think I need to switch given a lot of channels have moved from Empire State Building to World trade center in NYC. I mostly watch 2.1 cbs, 4.1 nbc, 49.1 pbs, 21.2 wliw, 7.1 abc, 13.1 wnet. Given most channels are 270 and some are 287, should I point to 275 maybe? Also I had it on top of detached garage at 13ft. Given signal strength is pretty good for me, will a move to 22ft to a sidewall make much of a difference? Here's a view from 22ft and a lot of trees even at 60ft -
View: https://imgur.com/a/CqWtwIb


Thanks

 

[comfortably_numb]

Last I heard, you are correct, the towers are atop the new 1WTC.

 

[TRG]

If you are at 300 degrees you need to be at 270.6.

EDIT: You may lose WABC when you rotate to 270.6 though. Yes, you could possibly find somewhere between 270.6 and 287.3 as a compromise. Especially since you are only 10 miles from the transmitter.

 

[jeevak]

Thanks guys. Also, will a move from 13ft to 22ft to a home's sidewall make much of a difference in my scenario?

 

[i_no_nutin]

Thanks guys. Also, will a move from 13ft to 22ft to a home's sidewall make much of a difference in my scenario?

When it comes to antennas there's an old saying "HEIGHT IS MIGHT". While there are exceptions to that, normally higher is better.

 

[jeevak]

Folks looks like I have destroyed my Winegard HD7000R during movement and some bolts were just way too rusted and couldn't come out. I'd rather start new - which antenna do you suggest I get?

I'm pretty close to towers in WTC and Times Square although it'll be nice to pull signals from the yellow and red categories too - should I get a strong antenna or that will cause problems due to too strong a signal - what model do you advise I get Winegard or any other
https://www.rabbitears.info/s/2823068

I'll be installing antenna at this location so I can make adjustments in the future without any ladder. This sidewall is a 16ft height -
View: https://imgur.com/a/i7NMzzb



thx

 

[comfortably_numb]

I suggest going to Juan 's house and stealing his

/s

 

[primestar31]

Folks looks like I have destroyed my Winegard HD7000R during movement and some bolts were just way too rusted and couldn't come out. I'd rather start new - which antenna do you suggest I get?

I'm pretty close to towers in WTC and Times Square although it'll be nice to pull signals from the yellow and red categories too - should I get a strong antenna or that will cause problems due to too strong a signal - what model do you advise I get Winegard or any other
https://www.rabbitears.info/s/2823068

I'll be installing antenna at this location so I can make adjustments in the future without any ladder. This sidewall is a 16ft height -
View: https://imgur.com/a/i7NMzzb



thx

At that distance to the towers, and your VERY high signal levels, a paperclip should work. Just buy any small antenna that covers at least UHF (primary) and High Vhf. You do have a couple Low Vhf channels, (2 through 6) and the antenna elements for those are very long if you insist on those also.

 

[jeevak]

I do like some low VHF Channels like WNWT-LD (Story TV and history) so guessing I'll need long antenna. Will Classic Series Yagi YA7000C be a good fit or something else? Also is my mounting location ok?

 

[primestar31]

I do like some low VHF Channels like WNWT-LD (Story TV and history) so guessing I'll need long antenna. Will Classic Series Yagi YA7000C be a good fit or something else? Also is my mounting location ok?

I find it really hard to believe that antenna can do Low Vhf, plus they are gouging you on the price, but it's worth a try if you are willing to pay for it.

As for is your mounting location ok, that's impossible to tell by guessing. Mount the antenna with as clear a view too the towers as you can get, and see what happens. If it doesn't work, put a long coax extension on it, and move it around to see if you can better the QUALITY of the signal. Sometimes a foot up, down, or side to other side or so can make a REAL big difference.

Signal STRENGTH is not the end-all, sometimes a lower strength BUT higher Quality can be better, yeah that's possible to do in some cases. Peak the signal quality as much as you can on the particular stations you want the most.

P.S. I just checked the feedback comments on Amazon for Low VHF for this antenna, and they seem like it's working out ok for the most part. Buy it from Amazon, and if it doesn't work well enough, you can likely return it for a refund if you don't scar it up badly while installing

 

[navychop]

Sometimes a foot up, down, or side to other side or so can make a REAL big difference.

Hallelujah!

It's an art. No reason I've moved OTA antennas small amounts and got much better reception. Once, and it still makes no sense to me, lowering the antenna made a big improvement.

PS- Test the signal before using the bolts!

 

[comfortably_numb]

I use a signal meter app on my phone paired with my HD Homerun device to make fine adjustments to my antenna. Without the meter it feels like stabbing in the dark..

Signal GH

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[Mr Tony]

Once, and it still makes no sense to me, lowering the antenna made a big improvement.

I agree 100%
When I put 2 separate antennas at the lake house (UHF was 3 translators west and VHF was NW) the VHF antenna was flush with the tripod. If I moved it up the mast the signal got worse. UHF was at the top of the mast due to 1 station being 1580 watts and the other being about 14,000 watts 30 miles away.

 

[TRG]

I use a signal meter app on my phone paired with my HD Homerun device to make fine adjustments to my antenna. Without the meter it feels like stabbing in the dark..

Signal GH

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Not me. I can see the antenna farm looming at 10,678 feet on Sandia Peak from my house. I literally bore sight along the horizontal axis and the signals blast in like a blowtorch. Yes, I know Im lucky.

 

[Comptech]

I have the telves data boss Lr on top of a 27 foot mast and a smaller Telves data boss UHF a few feet down using the smartkom amplifier the big one is pointing north towards the main towers and the small one is pointing south to the lighthouse. extreme upstate SC. Normally 86 channels, sometimes get a couple out of Tennessee, columbia SC and Augusta Ga.