Yes I guess they are. But apparently you misunderstood what I am saying.
1. I am told you cannot mix Hopper with any other receiver. If I am wrong please correct me on that because I will be on the phone ordering a Hopper.
2. My requirements are that I need to hook up 4 TV's. So if I pick the Hopper route it would mean I need 1 Hopper and 3 Joey's minimum. Being I am a continuous customer from the 90's I don't see the new customer deals. So I would probably be paying some serious cash even for the minimum hookup. That's cash that I don't really have on a fixed income. And Dish does not do "payments" over a couple of months. I know this because when I wanted the HD Free for Life deal it cost me $99.00 which a nice CSR after much effort got the system to not demand the automatic full payment( it took him a while to get the system to accept it).
So you see unless Dish policy has changed I as a customer cannot financially afford to switch.
3 Wouldn't the 211 and 722 be a step backward for me? Yes I know I can purchase external hard drives and pay the one time $50 fee. But if I don't have the cash for a Hopper where do you figure it will come from for a hard drive and fee.
So there you are, my reasoning behind the either all Hopper or no Hopper statement.
