Anybody using a Openbox with a SG2100 motor?

[Mr Tony]

I know a lot of folks have the openbox but I havent found anyone yet who is using a SG2100 with it.

So I got mine and hooked it up to the SG2100 I have. Scanned in 93W and started motoring across the arc. Got to 97W and scanned. All H transponders showed up but only 1/2 the Vertical ones did....hmmm nothing above 11950 or so
Moved to 125 and scanned. Again all the H transponders worked fine but vertical was about 1/2. While it scanned in PBS and PBS HD the quality was low (40's).

So I moved it back to 93W and hooked back up the Coolsat. Slaved the Openbox and tried again. Moved to 125, powered off the Coolsat (standby mode) and rescanned with Openbox. Got all channels at great quality and even logged OETA at a 80+. I thought 76 was the max?

So I ran a temporary cable from motor to openbox...same issues as before
So I tried my other motorized setup (which is another SG2100)...same issues

So I hooked the SSO to my diseqc switch which is a feed from both motorized and G16 C-Band (the azbox normally uses this)....scanned flawlessly on all 3 sats even with no other power from other units

So for fun I hooked up my old Pansat to the motor then slaved the SSO from that. Left the Pansat off and used the SSO like normal. Worked fine. I wonder if the SG2100 is doing something off the wall with the SSO but I figured I'd see those issues with horizontal polarity, not vertical.

So is anyone using a SG2100 and the SSO and it works?
Or better yet does anyone use it with just a KU motor? (I know lots of folks have it with C-Band setups or slaved)

 

[thebaggins]

I have that setup but it is a Solomand from Sadoun first batch running the newest firmware from his site not an Openbox. I am not having any of those problems.

 

[PopcornNMore]

I'm using a SG2100 motor with the Openbox S9 HD receiver. Have no problems.

 

[PopcornNMore]

I'm using a diseqc 4 port switch with the following dishes:
Port 1: 8' stationary dish AMC3
Port 2: 6' stationary dish Galaxy 16
Port 3: SG2100 motor on KU 4' dish
Port 4: DBS dish

Haven't had any problems.

 

[Mikey11]

i have used it with an SG9120 and it worked perfectly....

 

[Blindowl1234]

Ice...I had an issue months ago where the SG2100 was off a degree or so on 97W. The Sg2100 I have has a lot of play in it though. Sometimes it's off a degree or so as I pan the arc. I started wondering why I was missing channels so I checked the signal on several Tp's and noticed only a few were way down.Most were 70% but a few were 40%. I bumped the dish a degree and rescanned.....problem solved... No other problems using the SSO and SG2100 as far as scanning in channels....I've noticed the OETA has been stronger than usual too...Blind

 

[Mr Tony]

blind
I know the motor isnt off as the Coolsat shows good signal across the board for signals (all 70+ on Coolsat)

 

[thebaggins]

Maybe you are putting out more that 14 volts when you are on a Vertical Tp?? Going through the switch or the loop through on the other receivers is enough of a drop in voltage to make LNB work.

 

[Anole]

It was unclear when you slaved the SSO to the Coolsat and Pansat, just who did the moving.
I'm wondering if the SSO is calculating the motor move a little differently?
And so it might actually put the dish slightly off the satellite.

Alternately, how 'bout checking the LNB voltage in Vertical when using the SSO?
As we discussed in another thread, that should be quick 'n easy to do.

 

[Mr Tony]

When I slaved it to the Coolsat or Pansat the receiver was in standby and the SSO did the moving

 

[Mr Tony]

OK this makes no sense....did 3 tests

-hooked SSO to the loop out of the Coolsat which is on 97W and took results of a handful of TP's...both H & V
-hooked SSO directly to the motor setup. DIsh hasnt moved (SSO isnt set for motor) and took results of same TP....a couple V worked but low signal. All H worked fine
-Then hooked SSO to the 4x1 diseqc I have set up for the azbox which has feeds from both motorized setups and 99W C-Band. Nothing else is hooked up to maybe send power. Results on SSO are the same as slaved

Tried new cable from motor to SSO...same thing as before.
I'm at a freaking loss here. If it wasnt putting out 13v the diseqc would show the same bad results as the motor.

Here were results
vertical TP's
1st column is "slaved"
2nd is direct to motor
3rd is on diseqc

11836 73 28 73
11898 75 63 72
12022 75 00 **
12115 74 00 74

In 3rd setup I goofed and picked 12177 instead of 12022...showed at 74


Horizontal
same as above
11842 71 72 71
11966 72 72 72
12153 73 74 73

and pics

 

[Mr Tony]

OK let some more confusion come in

Hooked up a ecoda 22k switch...motor on 22k on line from 99W on 22k off
same results....a few V transponders sneak through. H works fine

so if its slaved it works
if hooked directly to motor...no
if hooked through a 22k switch to motor....no
if hooked directly from LNB (bypassing motor)...no
if hooked to 4x1 diseqc...works

 

[Mr Tony]

OK I give up now

Hooked up a diseqc switch like popcorn has his set up

port 1...99W C-Band
port 2...motor

works perfect. All transponders come in fine (both V & H) on 97W....havent tried to motor it yet

This makes absolutely no sense...since when is a diseqc switch "magical"?

 

[Mr Tony]

OK now I REALLY am confused

Swapped the diseqc....put port 1 as motor and port 2 as 99W....works fine
Turned off the Diseqc in the settings...works fine

Unhook switch...wont work

so now why does
receiver-----diseqc port 1----------------------motor-----------------LNB work yet
receiver----------------------------------------motor-----------------LNB doesn't?

 

[Mr Tony]

well someone mentioned trying old software as they are having same issue
http://www.satelliteguys.us/free-air-fta-discussion/239558-another-openbox-question.html

tried stuff from Sadoun site and other than giving me a god awful "Sathawk" background nothing changed

 

[Mr Tony]

well that worked for like 10 minutes....when the switch is hooked up the motor wont move when you select a vertical channel. Once on the sat it will show both polarity just fine

 

[Mr Tony]

so I hooked it back up with the Pansat in between and its working just fine. That makes no sense as the Pansat is in standby and the SSO is working fine
-runs motor E/W on either polarity with no issues
-scans both polarities
-shows good signals across the board.

weird.....

 

[Mr Tony]

I hooked the SSO back up to the motor (bypassing the Pansat) and it seems to be working now. I noticed the other day I had a 22k switch in between for 99W C-Band and some signal were low. Hooked the Coolsat back up and it did the same thing. Tried other 22k (both ecoda's) same issue. Some TP's were very low in signal quality

I swear this is so weird. When it works it works great. But when it doesnt work...hoo boy

 

[greg harris]

Send it back for warranty. You have a defective receiver. Have you tried a different lnb? I doubt it would help but you have tried everything else.
How does the motor run? Does it run good for a few degrees and then stop or hesitate? I have seen a bad OpenboxS9 that had receive issues. The motor operation in that receiver was not smooth over a distance. It would briefly stop or hesitate when moving 30-50 degrees across the arc.

 

[Mr Tony]

actually its working now....well it worked yesterday when I was trying it out. Worked fine all day (as noted in post 18). I did change the cable from the outlet on the wall to the receiver. I cant get on the roof to change LNB (about 6 inches of snow and ice on it)
Did lots of scanning to verify

But yesterday I could go from 125W over to 72W with no issues. No hesitation. I opened the deck door and listened while the motor moved (its right above the deck door so when I use a H transponder I can hear the motor move if its quiet in the hosue