AT&T completes DIRECTV spinoff.

[Don in CT]

They have to upgrade everything to fiber or maybe fixed wireless 5g( not cellular 5g)...that will take years..once the fiber or wireless is in..DTV is just another app..DTV not going to work very well on DSL

So you are shutting down the satellite service completely?

 

[Don in CT]

The reason ATT/D* went down so fast, outside of being mismanaged was that Cord Cutting came on strong right AFTER the purchase.

That and they overpaid for it and could never recoup their losses.

 

[Jimbo]

That and they overpaid for it and could never recoup their losses.

I don't think they really worried about the money, thier whole play was to gain more Subs for negotiating benefits .
They really ran the Sat service in the ground quickly.
Not so sure thier Large number of Subs actually paid off for them in the long run.

 

[Don in CT]

I don't think they really worried about the money, thier whole play was to gain more Subs for negotiating benefits .
They really ran the Sat service in the ground quickly.
Not so sure thier Large number of Subs actually paid off for them in the long run.

Could they have kept the company separate and not coupled it in.

 

[Jimbo]

Could they have kept the company separate and not coupled it in.

Who knows, they have made 1 screw up after another.

 

[Juan]

So you are shutting down the satellite service completely?

Are they building new satellites?

 

[Don in CT]

Are they building new satellites?

Don't they have some in development?

 

[navychop]

I seriously doubt it. Direct to home sat? Maybe with $ome $ort of deal with $tarlink.

Doubt it.

 

[Don in CT]

So when is the timeline to shut down DTV Sat service? And if people are complaining about losing Sunday Ticket to streaming how will they handle losing their TV service to streaming.

 

[Jimbo]

So when is the timeline to shut down DTV Sat service? And if people are complaining about losing Sunday Ticket to streaming how will they handle losing their TV service to streaming.

Don,
Its been talked about previously here and come to the conclusion that D* has Sats up there now that can go as long as 2030 ... (maybe longer).

 

[Don in CT]

Don,
Its been talked about previously here and come to the conclusion that D* has Sats up there now that can go as long as 2030 ... (maybe longer).

Would the service be viable that long out though? Cable can provide broadband down the line. Will Satellite service be it Dish or DTV have another use for its infrastructure. It's obvious what ATT's end game is, streaming.

 

[Jimbo]

Would the service be viable that long out though? Cable can provide broadband down the line. Will Satellite service be it Dish or DTV have another use for its infrastructure. It's obvious what ATT's end game is, streaming.

They have everything they need in place, they just need someone dedicated to keep it running.
It's still making plenty of money.
When it ends is going to come down to who owns it and what they want to put into it.

 

[Juan]

Don,
Its been talked about previously here and come to the conclusion that D* has Sats up there now that can go as long as 2030 ... (maybe longer).

Can you name any dbs satellite that lasted more than 15 years? Dtv satellie not going away anytime soon..but dont be surprised when they reallocate the frequencies like they are doing with c band...its just technology marching on

 

[mdonnelly]

Not to change the subject, but has anyone noticed that we don't see at&t ads when the program is paused now?

 

[Jimbo]

Not to change the subject, but has anyone noticed that we don't see at&t ads when the program is paused now?

I hadn't noticed it ... it DID still go to an ADD the other day ... however it didn't this morning, good catch.

 

[comp9]

Don't they have some in development?

No

 

[Bruce]

Don't they have some in development?

Nope, last one went up in 2019 ( ordered before AT&T bought them), but DirecTV is in better shape then Dish, their last Satellite went up 11 years ago and nothing planned or ordered.

DirecTV other big problem is their boxes for the Sat. Service are getting a little old, how long can they last, dated technology is never a good look.

The other issue is how many customers they can lose and still be profitable, losses this year are, reported, first and second quarter roughly -1,000,000 and estimated another -400,000.

AT&T loses 620,000 video subs in Q1 as DirecTV deal moves ahead

AT&T lost another 620,000 premium video subscribers in the first quarter as it moves forward with a deal to spin off DirecTV, U-verse and AT&T TV. | AT&T lost another 620,000 premium video subscribers in the first quarter as it moves forward with a deal to spin off DirecTV, U-verse and AT&T TV.

www.fiercevideo.com

AT&T Discloses DirecTV Q2 Subscriber Losses as Telco Preps for Pay-TV Unit Spinoff

DirecTV and AT&T's other pay TV services, which the telco is spinning off, dropped 473,000 subs in Q2, the lowest loss since Q4 2018.

variety.com

Spun Off DirecTV Platforms Lost a Combined 412,000 Subscribers in Q3, Analyst Projects

AT&T no longer reports customer numbers for the pay TV assets it spun off in August, but Leichtman Research made an educated estimate

www.nexttv.com

 

[slice1900]

Can you name any dbs satellite that lasted more than 15 years? Dtv satellie not going away anytime soon..but dont be surprised when they reallocate the frequencies like they are doing with c band...its just technology marching on

D4, launched in 2002 with a 10 year expected life, retired about a year ago. D8, launched in 2005 with a 12 year expected life is now going strong at 119W and Directv expects its fuel to last until 2034.

There are plenty of examples. A satellite lasting only 15 years is the exception, not the rule.

 

[Juan]

D4, launched in 2002 with a 10 year expected life, retired about a year ago. D8, launched in 2005 with a 12 year expected life is now going strong at 119W and Directv expects its fuel to last until 2034.

There are plenty of examples. A satellite lasting only 15 years is the exception, not the rule.

You have to expect a few anomalies

 

[Jimbo]

You have to expect a few anomalies

A satellite lasting only 15 years is the exception, not the rule.