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Wasn't there a law passed a long time back mandating service providers level the sound from one ch. to the next? Or was that just for within any single given ch., and not letting commercials be boosted? Regardless it's a pain on DiSH with some ch's way louder than others, and having to jockey the sound up & down. Is there some fix? Can some TVs compensate for this?
 
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Wasn't there a law passed a long time back mandating service providers level the sound from one ch. to the next? Or was that just for within any single given ch., and not letting commercials be boosted? Regardless it's a pain on DiSH with some ch's way louder than others, and having to jockey the sound up & down. Is there some fix? Can some TVs compensate for this?
Some channels are Dolby Digital and some are not. Those that are not are louder than those that are.
 
So I guess then that between ch. 215 (wx) and 192 (ID) or one of my sat locals, 215 is one way and the other 2 are the other?
 
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depend on how you tv and box is setup? as both have "audio" leveling

for me if I have audio leveling on hopper enabled DD is lower then Stereo if i turn off on h3 turn on tv it the reverse. Almost ALL streaming channels much lower volume level then statalite channels.

Either way one my pet peaves is that even channel seem to have it own "audio level" and so to commericals and none of the actual audio leveling functions actual fix this and never have. would be nice if every channel dish/dtv/fios etc all made volume level defualt to same dB so atlest all channel where consistent volume probably wont help commercials though.

To my knowledge no TV has ever had audio leveling function that actual fixed that all it really does it either lower or raise the volume
 
depend on how you tv and box is setup? as both have "audio" leveling

for me if I have audio leveling on hopper enabled DD is lower then Stereo if i turn off on h3 turn on tv it the reverse. Almost ALL streaming channels much lower volume level then statalite channels.

Either way one my pet peaves is that even channel seem to have it own "audio level" and so to commericals and none of the actual audio leveling functions actual fix this and never have. would be nice if every channel dish/dtv/fios etc all made volume level defualt to same dB so atlest all channel where consistent volume probably wont help commercials though.

To my knowledge no TV has ever had audio leveling function that actual fixed that all it really does it either lower or raise the volume
maybe he should post his gear so we could look into it 🤔.. t.v. soundbars AVR whatever he's running.. our home theater has volume leveling but so does our soundbar in the bedroom:)
 
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maybe he should post his gear so we could look into it 🤔.. t.v. soundbars AVR whatever he's running.. our home theater has volume leveling but so does our soundbar in the bedroom:)

Most stuff has all this volume leveling, almost all them dont work the way should or advertised as. maybe "ai" versions of volume level will work closer to way we would like to which make all channels and inputs same defualt sound level, including commercials

There is reason my entire mp3/audio music collection on my pc was changed to have same defualt "dB" for all files via something like MP3Gain so there all same defualt volume level and there for I never have to play around with my volume. I know Winamp could change dB defualts but never worked as good as just manual changing all the audio/mp3/music collection files to just be all the same
 
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But doesn't music require a lot of dynamic range? At least classical & the like? So there has to be allowance for some highs without attenuation, and some lows without boosting. It seems there needs to be some kind of a universal median level that all sources can register to, that still allows for both soft and loud intermittently. My dad always had westerns on and the gunshots really rang out
 
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That's a fundamental issue with volume levels - it's not just that people want some "level" but that the material itself can demand (or at least so says the creator) a wide dynamic range or a smaller one. ie: do you boost the typical conversations upward and use most of your range just for voices? Or do you leave room for the explosions and jet engines. Creators and viewer/listeners all vary in their priorities, and most volume-leveling products are trying to do things in real time so they have very little context to work with. Even when using a tool that reads a whole file and displays a peak volume, you can wonder how often such a volume occurs and then you can disagree on how important it is for something like an explosion to have any clipping/distortion.

I think the OP refers to the Commercial Advertisement Loudness Mitigation Act, AKA the CALM act. But as the name suggests, I think it only has to do with commercials and not different sources.

By the way, if you watch westerns with realistic gunshot sound levels, I recommend hearing protection. :)
 
I will say this on PC it worse one game is one volume level by defualt another is super quiet and another deafening loud, and volume leveling dont equalize it. The dynamic range isnt the problem the defualt volume is not same from channel to channel, commercial to commercial game to game.

To mean volume leveling is defeat volume level from source to source channel to channel, commercial to commercial, game to game.

Default volume level of 89.9 dB across the board fixes that tv providers can easily do this from there end and mandate commercial creators follow it, but it wont ever happen

Maybe volume leveling means somthing else to other people
 
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This only if anything seems to be worsening on DiSH. Ch. 215 is a prime example. It's typically much louder than other ch's, and today I notice it even contradicting itself, shifting drastically up and down inexplicably over periods of several minutes. Oddly, the quietest periods have come during commercials...
 
Personally I prefer the sound to be loud and dynamic like the movie theater. I have my Amazon Fire TV Plus sound bar that works with two rear speakers and a sub woofer, puts out great sound and the explosions are loud. So all our Tv shows and movies sound great. My parents in their 80s have their Amazon sound bar with out speakers and sub woofer turned down and can't stand to hear the explosions and special effects. They have it set for Dialogue and my sound bar is set for Movies. I told them you might as well just use the TV without a sound bar, since you really don't use it.
 
Personally I prefer the sound to be loud and dynamic like the movie theater. I have my Amazon Fire TV Plus sound bar that works with two rear speakers and a sub woofer, puts out great sound and the explosions are loud. So all our Tv shows and movies sound great. My parents in their 80s have their Amazon sound bar with out speakers and sub woofer turned down and can't stand to hear the explosions and special effects. They have it set for Dialogue and my sound bar is set for Movies. I told them you might as well just use the TV without a sound bar, since you really don't use it.
Agreed. I have a JBL Bar/sub/rears that we watch everything through. I can't stand TV speakers
Except, the newer LG G5/C%. They have unreal sound.
 
Agreed. I have a JBL Bar/sub/rears that we watch everything through. I can't stand TV speakers
Except, the newer LG G5/C%. They have unreal sound.
I have the LG B3 55inch OLED TV I bought at the end of 2024 for like $759.00. Love this TV. The video is bright and the viewing angle is good anywhere you sit in the room. Everything looks great. I mean the blacks are really black, even in dark scenes. Artifacts I used to see are gone.

The sound bar is a Amazon Fire TV Plus sound bar with sub woofer and 2 surround speakers and the sound is very good to me. I replaced an older A/V receiver and wired speakers and it still sounds booming through out the room.

The only problem I have had is in the morning the Sound bar some times doesn't get recognized till I unplug the HDMI from the ARC slot and plug back in so the TV will see the input the sound bar is assigned to and then it will work again. Minor and it doesn't happen every time.
 
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I have a Sony A8H that in some way generates sound from the whole screen. Sounds OK to me.

I noticed some years ago that moviehouses got really loud, especially during previews. Another cause for dropping attendance.

But the worst as far as home viewing is having to continually run the volume up & down because of content being all over the place, from ch to ch and sometimes within ch's. Is there nothing a DiSH can do?
 
Wasn't there a law passed a long time back mandating service providers level the sound from one ch. to the next? Or was that just for within any single given ch., and not letting commercials be boosted? Regardless it's a pain on DiSH with some ch's way louder than others, and having to jockey the sound up & down. Is there some fix? Can some TVs compensate for this?
There is an option for volume leveling in the dish receiver...roku has it too...not sure about fire tv...if your sound bar has a gui interface its in there somewhere
 
I have a Sony A8H that in some way generates sound from the whole screen. Sounds OK to me.

I noticed some years ago that moviehouses got really loud, especially during previews. Another cause for dropping attendance.

But the worst as far as home viewing is having to continually run the volume up & down because of content being all over the place, from ch to ch and sometimes within ch's. Is there nothing a DiSH can do?
Don't you have the level option on the audio menu of your satellite receiver? Also check your bass and treble of your TV. The louder the bass is the more louder the explosions. The dialogue option on the TV can be used if you prefer dialogue to special effects sounds.
 
I have the LG B3 55inch OLED TV I bought at the end of 2024 for like $759.00. Love this TV. The video is bright and the viewing angle is good anywhere you sit in the room. Everything looks great. I mean the blacks are really black, even in dark scenes. Artifacts I used to see are gone.

The sound bar is a Amazon Fire TV Plus sound bar with sub woofer and 3 surround speakers and the sound is very good to me. I replaced an older A/V receiver and wired speakers and it still sounds booming through out the room.

The only problem I have had is in the morning the Sound bar some times doesn't get recognized till I unplug the HDMI from the ARC slot and plug back in so the TV will see the input the sound bar is assigned to and then it will work again. Minor and it doesn't happen every time.
I'm watching for Black Friday to get a 77" C5 or G5. The C6H isn't getting great reviews and will be twice as much.
 
I have a Sony A8H that in some way generates sound from the whole screen. Sounds OK to me.

I noticed some years ago that moviehouses got really loud, especially during previews. Another cause for dropping attendance.

But the worst as far as home viewing is having to continually run the volume up & down because of content being all over the place, from ch to ch and sometimes within ch's. Is there nothing a DiSH can do?
It's not Dish, it's the difference between digital compressed audio and uncompressed analogue audio.
 

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