AZBox in Canada ?

[Mikey11]

does anybody know of any reputable dealers in canada?

if not, where is reputable to buy in the states?

i dont want to get stuck with a clone

 

[Keith Brannen]

does anybody know of any reputable dealers in canada?

if not, where is reputable to buy in the states?

i dont want to get stuck with a clone

Yes there is, Dr. Sat (drsat.ca) in Oakville, Ont. I highly recommend them, excellent service. Plus the owner is also a member here.

 

[pwrsurge]

does anybody know of any reputable dealers in canada?

if not, where is reputable to buy in the states?

i dont want to get stuck with a clone

Dr. Sat is the exclusive distributor and dealer for AzBox in Canada and imports all their units directly from Opensat in Portugal. We are working on designing a website for the Canadian market at http://www.azbox.ca but in the meantime, have redirected the domain to Dr. Sat's lineup of AzBox products. We also maintain a mirror site for the latest firmware releases at http://fw.azbox.ca

Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions.


PwrSurge
AzBox Canada

 

[rogerduncan100]

Well, Dr. Sat of Oakville Ontario, what do you have to say about this?

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

I did not see the post that was deleted, but I will say that I am getting close to deleting all dr sat posts as spam.

I have sponsors wondering why I am letting them advertise for free when they need to pay.

Its a valid question and it's a fine line I must walk as we need our sponsors to keep the site online.

So please keep that in mind. Thanks for your understanding.

 

[Keith Brannen]

I did not see the post that was deleted, but I will say that I am getting close to deleting all dr sat posts as spam.

I have sponsors wondering why I am letting them advertise for free when they need to pay.

Its a valid question and it's a fine line I must walk as we need our sponsors to keep the site online.

So please keep that in mind. Thanks for your understanding.

Scott, I am a little confused by your post and would like some clarification.

What posts are you considering as spam? The very few posted by pwrsurge, which have been after someone has mentioned Dr. Sat (such as this thread, where I recommended them first)?

Or, are saying that my recommendation, when someone asks about dealers, or where I got my AZBox, etc., is the spam you are talking about? And, therefore, I shouldn't mention it when someone asks (even though none of the sponsors sell AZBox)?

Just want some clarification.

 

[hd fan]

Mikhel the fact that nor Canada , neither Dr Sat is listed on the azbox website as an authorized distributor does not mean that Dr Sat isn't a valid Authorized Distributor in Canada. Its not going to be the first time that companies does not update their webpages properly. But you are making a good point by alerting every potential Azbox consumer to make sure it is not a clone or that they are not buying from an authorized dealer. As such I would advice them to contact Azbox and ask them.

I can not assure 100% whether Dr Sat is an authorized dealer in Canada or not, but in any case to me it seems it is, and more improtantly it seems to me to be a dealer you can trust and very knowledgeable on this Sat matters. For anyone wondering, after living in Canada for almost 9 years I dislike/distrust Dr Sat as much as any other Canadian and/or American and as such do not trust either, equally, just as the saying goes, hence positive comments of any kind by me about a Canadian or American entity (either a person or a company) should be regarded as highly accurate and based only on true facts and actual experiences. Beleive me , it does not get more objective than this, lol.

I also agree with Scott on this one but I guess Keith makes also a good point and that is that non of the sponsors here sell the Azbox and on top of that we all now that higher cost of shipping anything to the USA from Canada makes it more difficult for a Canadian dealer to catter to US customers therefore eventhough Dr Sat might seem to be getting free publicity on this forum about its services in my opinion its intended audience will more likely be only forum members like me who live in Canada. In any case I think its fair to assume that we all , consumers and dealers, would like to see FTA grow for the benefit of all , therefore being flexible and allowing new entrants some space would be healthy for all. Let us not forget the OP title was exactly "Azbox in Canada" so either we delete the whole thread based on the ground of no one should ask this or we at least allow even the Canadian dealers to comment briefly on this, after all they are forum users as well.

I wish I had the money and time to create and maintain a forum like this, beleive me, non of this will ever happen but again , maybe that is why I have no money at all, lol.

Just my 2 cents I guess, lol.

 

[Mikey11]

thanks for the help....i think....i didnt mean to cause such a disturbance on the forum....i would just rather purchase in canada if i can to avoid paying duty fees at the border....

 

[Mr Tony]

The 2 posts by Mikhel were deleted. The first one was reported and the 2nd one I got to before it was reported. Both for the same thing...and it falls under the same theory as what Scott says

Why should we give a non-sponser free advertising? Better yet, why give 2 people who are trying to kill the hobby by posting feeds in open areas and dont care about the consequences of posting them as such advertising here? Those posts have been deleted before for the same thing.

 

[Mr Tony]

Like Scott said it can be a fine line. If the sponsors dont carry a specific product, we can't say to go there. But if we say where to go, then it can look like free advertising for a non-sponsor. And we try to keep everyone happy

 

[rv1pop]

Just my 2 tax tokens worth thought on this "free advertising": Convert the post to PM and then delete it saying "Converted to PM and deleted -- not a sponsor."

 

[pwrsurge]

I did not see the post that was deleted, but I will say that I am getting close to deleting all dr sat posts as spam.

I have sponsors wondering why I am letting them advertise for free when they need to pay.

Its a valid question and it's a fine line I must walk as we need our sponsors to keep the site online.

So please keep that in mind. Thanks for your understanding.

Dear Mr. Greczkowski,

We fully understand and agree with your concerns. It is certainly not our intention to use these discussion forums for free advertising. We would be glad to become a SatelliteGuys.US sponsor. Someone from Dr. Sat will be contacting you momentarily in order to obtain more information on advertising opportunities which are available.


Best regards,


PwrSurge
AzBox Canada

 

[tanka]

anyway the bottom line is that money talks ... but its good to know that we have AzBox dealer close to where i live, so i dont have to worry about shipping ... like this free to air is even better!!

 

[stanleyjohn]

So! let me see if i have this correct! You cant put a link to a Non sponsor!but you can mention the name of a non sponsor without it being deleted.Example!! sadoun.I find that googleing helps me when i need info most of the time.PS i have read nothing negative about DS.Heres hoping that a AZ dealer will be added as a sponsor in the future!Azbox makes a great reciever and its a shame there is no sponsor here.

 

[zamar23]

imports all units directly from Opensat in Portugal.

I want to add my 2 cents here.

AZBox is officially made in CN only, and there is absolutely NO reason to claim importing them from Portugal, as it doubles S&H. The base receiver was designed in South Korea, and its firmware is being currently updated by Opensat located in Portugal. They also jointly carry further hardware development with the original manufacturer. Just to be more accurate... So, if Opensat sells them wholesale for less, and covers warranty service, it makes sense to process docs through them. But hardly logistics follows this route.

And I agree, there is a fine line here on advertising. For example, if a product is well known, its not that hard to find a distributor in any country. If Opensat doesn't list such distributor on their site, a quick e-mail to Opensat would clear the issue. On the other hand, if a product is brand new, unusual or really hard to get, a friendly advice from a forum member would definitely help. I wouldn't be able to find some rare staff without searching for hints posted on Satguys.

I donno, may be if someone is looking for a certain feature that only a few products can deliver, such advice may deserve a softer look. But talking of well known products sold in volume for quite some time, it really looks like PR.

 

[pwrsurge]

I want to add my 2 cents here.

AZBox is officially made in CN only, and there is absolutely NO reason to claim importing them from Portugal, as it doubles S&H. The base receiver was designed in South Korea, and its firmware is being currently updated by Opensat located in Portugal. They also jointly carry further hardware development with the original manufacturer. Just to be more accurate... So, if Opensat sells them wholesale for less, and covers warranty service, it makes sense to process docs through them. But hardly logistics follows this route.

And I agree, there is a fine line here on advertising. For example, if a product is well known, its not that hard to find a distributor in any country. If Opensat doesn't list such distributor on their site, a quick e-mail to Opensat would clear the issue. On the other hand, if a product is brand new, unusual or really hard to get, a friendly advice from a forum member would definitely help. I wouldn't be able to find some rare staff without searching for hints posted on Satguys.

I donno, may be if someone is looking for a certain feature that only a few products can deliver, such advice may deserve a softer look. But talking of well known products sold in volume for quite some time, it really looks like PR.

If by "CN" you mean China then you are wrong. The AzBox hardware is assembled in Korea and the research and development along with software development is done by Opensat in Portugal. This is indicated on the box of each unit (i.e. Developed in Portugal, Made in Korea). Any AzBox products you find being produced in China are clones.


Regards,

PwrSurge
AzBox Canada

 

[zamar23]

This is indicated on the box of each unit (i.e. Developed in Portugal, Made in Korea)

Right on the box? Then may be you can tell us as an "authorized dealer", what company makes them in Korea?

For those who doesn't have AZBox, attached is Tele-Satellite Test Report of AZBox Premium HD PLus. One can see clearly printed on the STB back panel: Distributor Opensat Lda. Does it sound like "manufacturer"?

And here is the REAL manufacturer, where this box is assembled as you pointed: TONG DA ELECTRONIC CO.,LTD, SHISHI CITY,FUJIAN,CHINA

Now, don't get me wrong, I really like this box, and many China made products are of very good quality lately. And I don't see anything wrong in selling it by anyone in Canada. Especially you, being quite knowledgeable and thorough guy, as I recall from our earlier exchange. I'm sure, AZBox users can only benefit from buying it via qualified sellers, especially long term, support wise.

 

[pwrsurge]

Right on the box? Then may be you can tell us as an "authorized dealer", what company makes them in Korea?

DG Station Co., Ltd. from South Korea

For those who doesn't have AZBox, attached is Tele-Satellite Test Report of AZBox Premium HD PLus. One can see clearly printed on the STB back panel: Distributor Opensat Lda. Does it sound like "manufacturer"?

That is correct. As stated above, DG Station is the manufacturer of the hardware and Opensat Lda. distributes it as their product under the AzBox brand.

And here is the REAL manufacturer, where this box is assembled as you pointed: TONG DA ELECTRONIC CO.,LTD, SHISHI CITY,FUJIAN,CHINA

As stated previously, all authentic AzBox units are manufactured in Korea as indicated on the cardboard box that the receiver came in. There are a few companies from China including the one you mentionned who have cloned the AzBox in order to profit on its success.

 

[zamar23]

As I found from the thread AZBox - a history of the new contender, company DGStation is and has being the primary developer of Relook / AZBox. They indeed contract manufacturing of their receivers to a larger SK STB maker. However, as Hugo said long ago in interview to TSM, serial AZBox manufacturing was moved to CN to cut costs, as demand grown. As to TONG DA ELECTRONIC - its large gov. controlled CN electronics maker, with an impressive list of world known companies manufacturing their products at this factory under their labels and carton boxes. Anything is possible, but I would be very surprised to learn that Tongda makes clones, when so many OEMs are eager to make their products at this factory. Besides, Hugo said many times, they have own office in Miami (not a dealer), and the above shipment was destined to that office. From that warehouse it would be logical to further ship part of a container to their Canadian dealer as routinely done by carriers (if not direct from CN) - what do you think?

Again, I truly wish you success in selling this box. Do you feel, there are other interesting boxes coming soon from Korean and European STB makers? How would you access current trends in STB development?