Bad News For Hackers
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Is there really any signs in their subscription numbers that they are having fewer net additions than what they used to?
I think Dish should sue Kudelski.
I am not going to go into details, But looking at the dumps of some of the yellow cards show that some on die security features of the mcu used are disabled in ROM.
Why in the hell would Kudelski disable an on-die security feature that protects against a very common attack?
I am not going to go into details, But looking at the dumps of some of the yellow cards show that some on die security features of the mcu used are disabled in ROM.
Why in the hell would Kudelski disable an on-die security feature that protects against a very common attack?
I really hate to say it, but it is just a fact of life, wayy back when when DTV was open, people were there, they secured themselves up, and instead of trying to break it, everyone moved to E*. Then some observent hackers noticed some of the new cards were similar to the old, got into them (which some of thsoe have been swapped out)
It will just keep happening, if E* secures up to a point where noone can open her, hackers will move. Digital cable can be cloned, they go there (DC II, wasnt hacked yet, as noone bothered, there was always an eaiser way out)
Hate to say it, but the majority of "hackers" out there are even more skilled than those "software programmers" and "security experts" hired @ large companies.
Now when you think about the challenge for the "hackers" to work, must give a thrill when they pop into something, but im still sticking with my $135 a month sub , even if $40 is in rediculous fees, as it wont (or rather should not) die out in the middle of a BOXING PPV, or during a nice HD movie on HDNET (and why is 7 days in may not on till saturday! I want to watch it now!)
Anywho, its just a game, once E* fully secures up, all the hackers will go to somewhere else!
It will just keep happening, if E* secures up to a point where noone can open her, hackers will move. Digital cable can be cloned, they go there (DC II, wasnt hacked yet, as noone bothered, there was always an eaiser way out)
Hate to say it, but the majority of "hackers" out there are even more skilled than those "software programmers" and "security experts" hired @ large companies.
Now when you think about the challenge for the "hackers" to work, must give a thrill when they pop into something, but im still sticking with my $135 a month sub , even if $40 is in rediculous fees, as it wont (or rather should not) die out in the middle of a BOXING PPV, or during a nice HD movie on HDNET (and why is 7 days in may not on till saturday! I want to watch it now!)
Anywho, its just a game, once E* fully secures up, all the hackers will go to somewhere else!
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why, thats why he has the insurance policy i think Charlie sabotaged his own cards to collect the insurance policy same old story the rich get richerRVD420 said:
Would he stand to gain more for the "insurance policy" than what he loses in subscriptions? Maybe he plans on a new type of card and just wanted to gain something out of the current cards in this way. He sure aint gaining anything on the FTA unless he is getting some money out of those boxes.
I have no idea about fta, never seen one or used one with my own eyes
he may be losing money with fta, but maybe thats why dish is now targetting ebay dtv did, only time will tell but with what dish is doing to ebay now, its seems vaguely familiar with what dtv did a few years back when there signal was apparently compromised
Maybe these 2 compaines really are 1 company they appear to have a lot in common
he may be losing money with fta, but maybe thats why dish is now targetting ebay dtv did, only time will tell but with what dish is doing to ebay now, its seems vaguely familiar with what dtv did a few years back when there signal was apparently compromised
Maybe these 2 compaines really are 1 company they appear to have a lot in common
ftarock said:
I'm sorry ....I meant to say everything that is Mpeg 4 is secure.....the new HD ch's. Problem is that these FTA units are legal. Directv really had no units like FTA to deal with. It's a much bigger problem for Dish right now than it was for directv.
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FTA DVB receivers by themselves are pefectly legal. In the past, DTV sued hacker-wanna-be because they bought the programers or some other devices that are designed just for hacking their services.
With what happing now, DishNetwork will have a very hard time to go after those buying FTA boxes on ebay.
FTARock
With what happing now, DishNetwork will have a very hard time to go after those buying FTA boxes on ebay.
FTARock
stone phillips420 said:
true to a sence. The boxes are legal from the manufacturer. I have seen places sell them with "the newest most up to date software to get everything". Them ain't legal
The newer Dish receivers that don't come with a card are mostly secure. Since the card slot is currently disabled, there's no easy way to access the box for hacking.
Here is the kicker though. DirecTv is going MPEG-4 soon too, already is with the new HD receivers. Hearing that new MPEG-4 FTA receivers are coming out soon by getting an MPEG-4 FTA box you would pickup DirecTv and Dish Network both. Those would be in high demand I imagine. You think its bad now, both companies are going to have a huge problem when this comes out.
rglore said:
The IRDs with the emmbeded cam are not really anymore secure than older boxes.
Hackers can still reprogram the on-board cam. It just takes more soldering skills than the average freetver (but not a hinderance for the ture hacker)
All the embeded cam IRDs do is make it harder for the joe 6- pack I want freetv hacker.
But it also lines the pockets of "dealers" who have the equipment and tools to preform the hardware mods needed to program the onboard cam.
pepper rex said:
I will NEVER pay a dime to DirecTV due to this. I don't support the hacking either. But when DirecTV started twisting peoples arms with scare tactics saying they were hacking even when they weren't I'll pass! I personally know someone that was going to sued for buying some serial chip from a site. Did he even have a satellite dish or receiver? Nope. He needed the chip for a college project, he googled for the chip as he only needed one and other stores wanted to sell in bulk, he found a site that had it and ordered it. The site was then busted and DirecTV started suing everyone. Could you imagine getting legal documents with your name over a part you ordered for your education?
If Dish Network would follow suit with this, they would be suing everyone that bought a DVB FTA receiver or DVB PCI card. DishNetwork used to sit up all high and mighty as the DirecTV system was hacked night and day now that DirecTV has secured their signal, the pirates are looking at the easier system. I'm sure if DishNetwork locked theirs down better than DirecTV the focus would be on DirecTV and their signal would soon be compromised.
All Dish receivers are...
..hacked. Even all cardless from what I have seen on news that came out from hackers around US. Even in Spain that they use Nagra One and Two all are hacked a this moment. I don't buy the speculation that some employee did this. Hackers are much far away in this that all the "whiz kids" the companies have. Directv too have been compromised, Sky from Mexico too. Even the newest one from Chile, ZapTv that works on Conax security. Directv Latin America is old in this hackers stuff. And if you guys check the european sites you will become aware that most services there are compromised. All I could do is keep my payments updated, watch my baseball games with my sixpack of beer by my side and forgot all this nigthmare of hackers, fta, cards, etc, etc. Lets lleave the worries to the companies because they are the ones that have our money in the bank and at the end if we don't pay on time they shut us down even with all the compliments we have given them in here. hose are my two cents.:devil:
..hacked. Even all cardless from what I have seen on news that came out from hackers around US. Even in Spain that they use Nagra One and Two all are hacked a this moment. I don't buy the speculation that some employee did this. Hackers are much far away in this that all the "whiz kids" the companies have. Directv too have been compromised, Sky from Mexico too. Even the newest one from Chile, ZapTv that works on Conax security. Directv Latin America is old in this hackers stuff. And if you guys check the european sites you will become aware that most services there are compromised. All I could do is keep my payments updated, watch my baseball games with my sixpack of beer by my side and forgot all this nigthmare of hackers, fta, cards, etc, etc. Lets lleave the worries to the companies because they are the ones that have our money in the bank and at the end if we don't pay on time they shut us down even with all the compliments we have given them in here. hose are my two cents.:devil:
All Dish receivers are...
..hacked. Even all cardless from what I have seen on news that came out from hackers around US. Even in Spain that they use Nagra One and Two all are hacked a this moment. I don't buy the speculation that some employee did this. Hackers are much far away in this that all the "whiz kids" the companies have. Directv too have been compromised, Sky from Mexico too. Even the newest one from Chile, ZapTv that works on Conax security. Directv Latin America is old in this hackers stuff. And if you guys check the european sites you will become aware that most services there are compromised. All I could do is keep my payments updated, watch my baseball games with my sixpack of beer by my side and forgot all this nigthmare of hackers, fta, cards, etc, etc. Lets lleave the worries to the companies because they are the ones that have our money in the bank and at the end if we don't pay on time they shut us down even with all the compliments we have given them in here. Those are my two cents.:devil:
..hacked. Even all cardless from what I have seen on news that came out from hackers around US. Even in Spain that they use Nagra One and Two all are hacked a this moment. I don't buy the speculation that some employee did this. Hackers are much far away in this that all the "whiz kids" the companies have. Directv too have been compromised, Sky from Mexico too. Even the newest one from Chile, ZapTv that works on Conax security. Directv Latin America is old in this hackers stuff. And if you guys check the european sites you will become aware that most services there are compromised. All I could do is keep my payments updated, watch my baseball games with my sixpack of beer by my side and forgot all this nigthmare of hackers, fta, cards, etc, etc. Lets lleave the worries to the companies because they are the ones that have our money in the bank and at the end if we don't pay on time they shut us down even with all the compliments we have given them in here. Those are my two cents.:devil:
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