Ciel 2 Tracking

[Shortfork]

E5 can't move before 1/15/2009, but it doesn't have to move that day either.

Does it have to move before C2 can move to the same location? If not, does this mean there might be a lag period while they reposition both sats??

TIA..

Wayne Sagar

 

[digiblur]

Does it have to move before C2 can move to the same location? If not, does this mean there might be a lag period while they reposition both sats??

TIA..

Wayne Sagar

Of course it has to wait to move until C2 is in place at 129, tested, and traffic transferred.

 

[JohnH]

Does it have to move before C2 can move to the same location? If not, does this mean there might be a lag period while they reposition both sats??

TIA..

Wayne Sagar

Ciel-2 will move to the area of 129. The channels will be transferred from EchoStar 5. Echostar 5 will depart 129 for 148. If EchoStar 5 was in the exact position which Ciel-2 is supposed to occupy then Ciel-2 will slowly dirft to its final position while providing service. Or as was the case with the EchoStar 8 to EchoStar 11 transition. EchoStar 5 may slowly move .2 degrees out and then Ciel-2 will move in before the channels are moved over.

 

[navychop]

Does it have to move before C2 can move to the same location? If not, does this mean there might be a lag period while they reposition both sats??

TIA..

Wayne Sagar

Although they have the same assigned location, 129, there is really a great deal of space up there, and a few satellites can occupy the same "spot." IIRC, there's something like 75 miles leeway, plus a little further up and down, for satellites at any given "address."

 

[Shortfork]

Thanks for the answers... as for the leeway in position, I'd wondered, since current sat is so sensitive to wobble or whatever it does that causes it to go from high 30's to zero here about every 10 or 15 minutes at times... other times, it seems solid for a bit longer.. Completely useless though if you are interested at all in what you are watching, as it seems to have an uncanny ability to drop signal at the worst possible times..

Wayne Sagar

 

[Bill1767]

Why is this bird moving to 148w, when it"s dying and wobbleing like it does for 129w location

 

[r_childress]

So Dish can maintain it's license for the 148 orbital location

 

[ralfyguy]

So Dish can maintain it's license for the 148 orbital location

I wonder for how long that POS E5 can hold that slot. They gotta have another bird to replace E5 at 148 soon also.

 

[nelson61]

Another update - no movement -- again two in one day.

CIEL-2
1 33453U 08063A 09008.50517182 .00000112 00000-0 10000-3 0 462
2 33453 0.0506 158.0298 0000302 218.5338 135.4823 1.00274627 318

 

[apollog]

Scott reported from the CES show, that testing is going well and C2 will be ready soon.

 

[photoman76]

Still testing at this time.

 

[RTCDude]

Another update - no movement -- again two in one day.

CIEL-2
1 33453U 08063A 09008.50517182 .00000112 00000-0 10000-3 0 462
2 33453 0.0506 158.0298 0000302 218.5338 135.4823 1.00274627 318

nelson61, Is there an explanation for all of these TLE numbers somewhere?

 

[JohnH]

nelson61, Is there an explanation for all of these TLE numbers somewhere?

Orbital Elements

ciel-2
1 33453u 08063a   09008.50517182  .00000112  00000-0  10000-3 0   462
2 33453 000.0506 158.0298 0000302 218.5338 135.4823 01.00274627   318

 

[Shortfork]

nelson61, Is there an explanation for all of these TLE numbers somewhere?

Yea, from a layman's point of view, "it aint there yet"....

Hanging out here on the western most of the USA continent, I can only wish that it happens soon!!!

Wayne Sagar

 

[Bill1767]

I wonder for how long that POS E5 can hold that slot. They gotta have another bird to replace E5 at 148 soon also.

That's if it makes it there?

 

[digiblur]

That's if it makes it there?

I figure it will otherwise they wouldn't have filed to move it there. Once it gets there they can let it wobble like crazy and go into an inclined orbit to conserve fuel to hang on to the 148 license.

 

[jacmyoung]

Orbital Elements

ciel-2
1 33453u 08063a   09008.50517182  .00000112  00000-0  10000-3 0   462
2 33453 000.0506 158.0298 0000302 218.5338 135.4823 01.00274627   318

I think we should just stick to our old plan, next time when updating, please do not forget to tell us where the heck the bird is at

 

[broadcasttheworld]

New 129 vs. Old 129

I currently reside in Ohio and have a 100.4 with wing 61.5. I recently covered my 129 LNB simply because my receiver kept locking on the 129 sat for my HD. This went out "with a clear view of the SW sky" a lot. With this new bird going to 129 what is the power difference between the current 129 and the new? Wondering if I should remove the foil give myself the best possible signal.

 

[Laddyboy]

When 129 gets in place, assuming it works, its signal should be several points higher than the current 129's.

 

[digiblur]

It might even be stronger than whats on 61.5 since it is a new bird.