if the first few info suppliers would post the latest date of their signals...since this all changed 10 days after the thread was started, it would help. The new update will have date on the readings to try and prevent bad info as much as can be helped.
D* HD Transponder List - 99.2 and 102.3
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6/3/06 Update (Nashville,TN area)
Current readings for the 99 (Network 11) bird:TP3-85 TP5-65 TP7-88 TP13-63 Current readings for the 103 (Network 14) bird: 24 total TPs with no signal strength on any of them.These readings are from H20 receivers.The tech that done our installation said that we could add 20 points to these numbers when we check for signal strengths,does anyone know if this is true?Example:TP7 on the 99 (Network 11) bird is showing a signal strength of 88.Would that signal strength actually be 108?
Current readings for the 99 (Network 11) bird:TP3-85 TP5-65 TP7-88 TP13-63 Current readings for the 103 (Network 14) bird: 24 total TPs with no signal strength on any of them.These readings are from H20 receivers.The tech that done our installation said that we could add 20 points to these numbers when we check for signal strengths,does anyone know if this is true?Example:TP7 on the 99 (Network 11) bird is showing a signal strength of 88.Would that signal strength actually be 108?
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It seemed to me that the picture that shows on the TVs look better than what the signal strengths actually show. :up HDTVFanAtic said:
With all due respect to HDTVFanAtic who I believe knows what he is talking about, I can say with 100% confidence that we are both correct depending on the particular H20-600 series unit/lot that we are using. I have also done a comparison of all transponders on the 101, 110 and 119 sats and here are the results: My H10 (mpeg2) also shows similar readings as my older Sony HD-200 (at least 20 points higher than the H20). I have 2 H20's that both show similar signal strengths (about 20 points lower). The first reading is from the H10 and the second is from the H20:
Sat 101
1 84-65
2 86-64
3 78-59
4 94-74 - This is a spotbeam transponder for my area only.
5 80-56
6 91-67
7 81-58
8 91-68
14 91-69
15 79-57
16 91-69
17 83-62
31 87-58
32 92-70
Sat 110
28 89-68
30 90-68
32 90-66
Sat 119
22 91-64
23 92-69
24 84-64
25 0-0 Perhaps this is spotbeam also?
26 91-67
27 92-70
29 86-60
30 86-60
All 4 of my receivers use the same AT9 - 5 LNB antenna. I have swapped the cables around among the 4 connectors on the LNB to the different TV's and each receiver still shows the same original signal strengths. Since installing the first H20 last November, I have never lost the picture despite some heavy rain storms last winter so I believe that the antenna is installed and aligned properly. We don't need a Zinwell switch as our locals are spotbeam on the 101 sat and you can also see that our signal strength is well into the 90's. I installed the AT9 myself following the video instructions and using a signal seeker. So, my conclusion is that we are both correct depending on the particular batch/lot of H20's that one is using. I also live on the west coast, so my readings are slightly lower than yours except for tp 4 on the 101 Sat that spot beams my locals.
HDTVFanAtic, I appreciate the interchange of technology opinion and look forward to future exchanges of ideas, but please trust me on this one that we are both correct and this is not an urban myth. Thanks and take care.
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The strength numbers between my HD Tivo and H20 is about 10-20% difference on Sats A (101), B (119), and C(110). The 20 points may be a swag but its pretty clear that the numbers showing on the 2 units are very different. Both receivers have locked signals but the HD Tivo definately shows higher strength. With the AT9 I am also experiencing the best strengths since I've had D*. Might be the dish or the installer but I am very happy with the signal strength and solid picture (even during rain).
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Latest KA signals in B'HAM AL.
Most recent readings for the Ka Sats from my H-20 thru zinwell wb68 multiswitch here in Birmingham, Al. Can the table at the beginning of the thread be updated?
99° Network 11
Tr1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
N/A N/A 100 0 0 0 85 0
9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16
0 0 N/A N/A 0 0 0 0
17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24
N/A N/A 0 0 0 0 0 0
25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32
0 0 N/A N/A 0 0 0 0
103° Network 14
Tr 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
N/A N/A 0 0 0 86 52 0
9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16
0 0 N/A N/A 0 0 60 0
17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24
N/A N/A 0 0 0 0 0 0
25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32
0 0 N/A N/A 0 0 0 0
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Most recent readings for the Ka Sats from my H-20 thru zinwell wb68 multiswitch here in Birmingham, Al. Can the table at the beginning of the thread be updated?
99° Network 11
Tr1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
N/A N/A 100 0 0 0 85 0
9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16
0 0 N/A N/A 0 0 0 0
17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24
N/A N/A 0 0 0 0 0 0
25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32
0 0 N/A N/A 0 0 0 0
103° Network 14
Tr 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
N/A N/A 0 0 0 86 52 0
9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16
0 0 N/A N/A 0 0 60 0
17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24
N/A N/A 0 0 0 0 0 0
25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32
0 0 N/A N/A 0 0 0 0
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doctor J said:
I swear I will do it, lol.
I have just been trying to revamp all the dishes on my roof and nothing has been working right.....as can be seen in other threads......and it taken all my time....and them doing the shuffle really kicked me motivation out of me....but now that people are actually really posting numbers - and i do not have to private message the world begging for numbers as i did for the first 3 weeks, i will get it done.
Here's most of the info updated. CAPS actual market. Lower case - reportable stregnths, No volunteer posters from needed markets.
The bottom line, 3 weeks of pm's to get all that will volunteer.
Nobody else will help, more holes, than markets filled.
We had the same problem finishing 119 spots & 72.5 local tp's.
I told the author, about the pm idea HDTVFanAtic used, but still unfinished business. This project will take longer to complete versus 119 & 72.5,
due to being exclusive HD only.
Nice work for those putting forth effort, who would like to see their
eforts lead to completion. Its best to set up as
3 Stickies, to wait out the spread of HD volunteers.
I also think adding the RSN's tp's will help bring attention, for more reports.
The bottom line, 3 weeks of pm's to get all that will volunteer.
Nobody else will help, more holes, than markets filled.
We had the same problem finishing 119 spots & 72.5 local tp's.
I told the author, about the pm idea HDTVFanAtic used, but still unfinished business. This project will take longer to complete versus 119 & 72.5,
due to being exclusive HD only.
Nice work for those putting forth effort, who would like to see their
eforts lead to completion. Its best to set up as
3 Stickies, to wait out the spread of HD volunteers.
I also think adding the RSN's tp's will help bring attention, for more reports.
Code:
99.2W net11
03 ATLANTA
04 BOSTON
05 - 62 stregnth nashville
06 PITTSBURGH
07 ATLANTA
08 KANSAS CITY
09 HARTFORD
10 - 66 stregth houston
13 - 62/47 stregnth nashville/chicagp
14 - 74 stregnth pittsburgh
15 - 82 stregnth columbus
16
19 - 40 stregnth detroit
20 - 69 stregnth chicago
21
22 - 71 stregnth kansas city
23 - 22 stregnth los angeles
24
25
26 SAN FRANCISCO
29
30
31
32 - 35 stregnth los angeles
102.3W Net14
03 PITTSBURGH
04 DETROIT
05 CHICAGO
06 ATLANTA
07 -93/86 stregnth pittsburg/birmingham
08 DETROIT
09 CHICAGO
10
13
14 NEW YORK
15 PITTSBURGH
16 PHOENIX
19
20
21 TAMPA
22 LOS ANGELES
23 HOUSTON
24 SAN FRANCISCO
25
26
29 TAMPA
30 SAN DIEGO
31 DALLAS
32 SAN FRANCISCO
----------------------
LAUNCHED CITIES
Atlanta
Baltimore
Boston
Birmingham, Ala.
Charlotte
Chicago
Cleveland
Columbus, Ohio
Dallas-Fort Worth
Denver
Detroit
Fresno
Hartford
Houston
Indianapolis
Kansas City
Los Angeles
Miami
Milwaukee
Minneapolis
Nashville
New York
Orlando
Philadelphia
Phoenix
Pittsburgh
Raleigh-Durham
Sacramento
Salt Lake City
San Diego
San Francisco
Seattle
St. Louis
Tampa
Washington, D.C.
West Palm Beach
---------------------------
PROJECTED LAUNCHES
Austin, Texas
Albuquerque, N.M.
Cincinnati
Grand Rapids, Mich.
Green Bay, Wis.
Greensboro, N.C.
Las Vegas
Madison, Wis.
Memphis, Tenn.
Portland, Maine
Portland, Ore.
Providence, R.I.
Reno, Nev.
San Antonio
RSN's
F Northwest Seattle
F Northwest Portland
Comcast Sacramento
F Bay Area
F Prime Ticket
F West
F Arizona
F utah```
F Rocky Mtn
F Altitude
Fox Midwest
F North
F Wisconsin
Comcast chicago
F Indiana
F Detroit
Spors Time Ohio
F Ohio
F Cininnati
F Southwest
F Houston
F South
Turner South
F Florida Miami
F Florida Tampa
Sun Orlando
Sun Florida2 Miami
F Pittsburgh
Comcast Mid Atlantic
MSG
F New York
YES
Sports Net New York
NESN
F New England
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The New Upgrade Borks The Ka Satellite Meter Signals.....
I Would Not Advise This - Something Is F..........
If you believe what the new firmware is telling you, the 99W satellite has been completely shut down and the 103W now has only 6 transponders working.
I would suggest you not force this upgrade until late when we have info on what this is actually about - as it might cause you very bad problems.....
I Would Not Advise This - Something Is F..........
If you believe what the new firmware is telling you, the 99W satellite has been completely shut down and the 103W now has only 6 transponders working.
I would suggest you not force this upgrade until late when we have info on what this is actually about - as it might cause you very bad problems.....
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I'll be happy to report the Birmingham levels.
I looked yesterday and there have been changes again.
I believe Sat 99 transponder 3 is the source of B'ham HD locals.
I also get adequate strength for Atlanta and Nashville spots.
Doctor j
I'll be happy to report the Birmingham levels.
I looked yesterday and there have been changes again.
I believe Sat 99 transponder 3 is the source of B'ham HD locals.
I also get adequate strength for Atlanta and Nashville spots.
Doctor j
chelsea said:
The new firmware upgrade has removed 99.2 from showing any signal at all, but I am still getting hd locals for Hartford. Does that mean they are on 102.3 and not 99.2 like your chart shows? Anyway, I am getting 92 on t3, 54 on t4, and 65 on t5.
raoul5788 said:
We can say with 100% certainty anything listed on this thread previous to this is now wrong.
This is without the dumbest move I think I have seen D* make to date for many, many, many reasons. It really is just unbelievable.
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HDTVFanAtic said:
Hey - I know nothing about the reasons/consequences of all this. Care to explain why you feel this way? My system and all channels seem to be working just fine - isn't that what matters after all. Need some help here from you as to what I am missing.
Thanks.
I just got my AT9 installed. I'm looking for the current transponders for 99 satellite I should be receiving in Sacramento, CA. I'm showing 96 percent on 26.
Can anyone furnish a link to the transponder plan that is being used on these Ka band satellites. or otherwise describe it? Initially, DirecTV had announced that there would be 48 transponders on each Ku satellite, which seemed to indicate that the channel plan would be an extension of that used on most C-band satellites, with 40Mhz transponder bands and 20 Mhz opposite polarity offsets, but the transponder test table in the HD20s only goes up to transponder 32, and according to Lyngsat, the center frequencies of the only six that are presently reported to be operational at 102.3 deg are 19,741, 19,804 and 19,866Mhz, leading me to the conclusion that there are 32 transponders with a width of about 62.5 Mhz each (probably more like 58.5 Mhz usable, bracketed by guard bands). Note that there is no half-transponder width offset between transponders of opposite polarity.
At present, Lyngsat reports no specific transponders to be operational on the 99 deg satellite. What is firmed509's basis for believing that he should be receiving signal from the 99 slot, rather than from the 102.3 slot?
firemed509 said:
At present, Lyngsat reports no specific transponders to be operational on the 99 deg satellite. What is firmed509's basis for believing that he should be receiving signal from the 99 slot, rather than from the 102.3 slot?
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