American soccer will collapse long before any other sport does
American soccer will collapse long before any other sport doesLet's examine what you're doing here, Sam. You're moving the goalposts. Your original statement which I called out as incorrect was:
"Lots of kids played soccer, but are now grown ups and have sports viewing tastes that are indistinguishable from previous generations."
So you're saying that soccer viewership in the US is no more popular now than it was a generation ago. And I call BS on that.
In response to that, you're now switching the argument to say that soccer viewership in the US right now is far lower than football, baseball, basketball or hockey. No $hit, sherlock. But again, that's not what we were debating. It's whether there's been a material increase in soccer viewership as increasing numbers of young Americans play soccer as kids and then grow up.
And taking viewership of just MLS into consideration isn't an accurate measure of total soccer viewership. Only now is MLS starting to draw the kind of money and talent it needs to be taken seriously alongside professional soccer leagues in the UK and continental Europe. American soccer fans watch those leagues as well on NBC, Fox Sports, Peacock, Paramount+, and other sources.
Note that I'm not predicting that soccer will ever become as popular a spectator sport as the big 4 I listed above. Maybe it'll eventually surpass the NHL, maybe it won't. But it IS becoming more popular among Americans and I see every reason to think that trend will continue.
Once again, sports do not attract the viewership as much as they think and should not get the high price tag they demand.
American soccer will collapse long before any other sport does
Have Directv drop sports and see who is left !Even if your numbers are correct, I think it is pretty sad that only .031% of the New York Metro Area watch the Yankees, imagine what the ratings are for the real bad teams.
Once again, sports do not attract the viewership as much as they think and should not get the high price tag they demand.
DirecTV has the most sports out of all the Live TV Providers, yet they still have lost at least 11 million subscribers in the last 7 years, Dish got rid of the RSNs, yet their losses are not as bad, Hulu and YTTV also do not have them, yet they are gaining subs.
Is that REALLY why people go to these games ?Fast forward this trend 15 years and think about what that portends for the available talent pool for the NFL in 2037. I'm not saying there won't still be quite a lot of talented young men willing to risk permanent brain damage. But those guys will increasingly be men of color coming from economically disadvantaged backgrounds (kind of like the lower ranks of the US military, for similar reasons).
Think about the coming social discussion around old rich white dudes paying for luxury boxes at NFL stadia so they can watch broke young black guys knock their brains out trying to get their piece of the American dream.
I don't do the Apple thing (phones or tablets whatnot either)I hope apple doesn't get NFL ... I dont have apple stuff
Who besides Directv and local cable carries YES?Because they can...its really that simple...anytime a cable system drops YES..all hell breaks loose...Dish never carried YES but everyone else does
Unless you buy a Roku, yes, to me it is worth the $39 to buy a Roku Stick to not deal with all that casting stuff.I don't do the Apple thing (phones or tablets whatnot either)
However, I was able to make an Apple ID and found a way to watch the MLB Friday night game on Apple. Thankfully.
It an App, not a piece of equipment.
If you can't get the App on your TV, there are boxes that will work ROKU, probably Fire Stick I would imaging.
I didn't have any of those at home, so I logged in on the computer and eventually Casted it to my TV ...
Now that was Baseball, but I gotta thing, IF Apple does get it, the NFL will work much the same way.
You mean the losses of subscribers would be worse then it already is….hard to believe.Have Directv drop sports and see who is left !
You do not need Apple stuff, buy a Roku.I hope apple doesn't get NFL ... I dont have apple stuff
Again, making my point, you are letting the few, again only .031% of the New York Metro Area Population watching on average, make the decision on carrying this channel and paying the high price for the many who do not watch it.Because they can...its really that simple...anytime a cable system drops YES..all hell breaks loose...Dish never carried YES but everyone else does
Yup ....You mean the losses of subscribers would be worse then it already is….hard to believe.
How do you know since DirecTV does not report numbers, if a inside source, please elaborate.Yup ....
It's already happening, the more Sports move to other platforms.
No..all cable channels have low ratimgs...YES is a very popular cable channel despite how the Yankees disgust meAgain, making my point, you are letting the few, again only .031% of the New York Metro Area Population watching on average, make the decision on carrying this channel and paying the high price for the many who do not watch it.
I am glad my provider does not carry it, I do not have to pay for a channel and the extra RSN fee for a channel I would never watch, if YTTV did start and carry it with a fee, I would drop them ( the benefit of no contract).
I just checked the RSN fee via DirecTV for the Orlando area, $11.99, that is $143.88 just for the extra fee, I just paid $69 for Extra Innings and ESPN+ ( Center Ice is included) is roughly $5 a month ( discount price bundled with Hulu and Disney ), that is only $129, so less then the extra RSN fee alone, now I get my favorite teams ( Detroit) and do not have to pay for a channel I do not want.
Anybody who wants high paying premium customers..Dishmart and many streaming providers who cater to lower priced end of the scale are happy with customers looking for the best deal at the best price...obviously both models work..and dishmart does make plenty of money even more without sports..there is room for competition so that all interests are servedWho besides Directv and local cable carries YES?
AFAIK, only Directstream carries YES aside local cable and Directv. And who is dishmart? Never heard of them.Anybody who wants high paying premium customers..Dishmart and many streaming providers who cater to lower priced end of the scale are happy with customers looking for the best deal at the best price...obviously both models work..and dishmart does make plenty of money even more without sports..there is room for competition so that all interests are served
Dush network in walmart modeAFAIK, only Directstream carries YES aside local cable and Directv. And who is dishmart? Never heard of them.
Well then they definitely don't carry YES. And as I said, only Directvstream carries it as a streaming service.Dush network in walmart mode
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