And that means pay the $30 or don't watch them on DISH. I like DIY but I won't pay the upgrade fee for that one channel, I can live with out DIY.In my post I was only using Cooking channel as an example,I do watch it alot.I also like BIO channel for its ghost shows..Just would like to see a package that is whats in AT 120 ,plus those 2 channels,but in order to get those it costs 30 more a month in the way they have the packages set up.