DISH Enters Deal with ROKU
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And since you disagree with him he's the troll and not you based on your last 2 fantastic indispensable contributions to the discussion?
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So... Some people think Dish is to blame for destroying Roku because Dish is evil and they destroy things.
But others think Roku is to blame because they should have KNOWN Dish is evil. Everyone already KNOWS Dish is evil. It's like being mad at Satan for being bad, so how can you blame Dish? Dish was born that way, so blame Roku, they had a choice!
Does that pretty much sum it up? If so, I can't disagree with anyone.
But others think Roku is to blame because they should have KNOWN Dish is evil. Everyone already KNOWS Dish is evil. It's like being mad at Satan for being bad, so how can you blame Dish? Dish was born that way, so blame Roku, they had a choice!
Does that pretty much sum it up? If so, I can't disagree with anyone.
At the end of the day, these channels are streaming for free over the net as someone else mentioned. The only way to stop whoever you feel is at fault is to not pay for Dish's international service. I won't. To me this is like TuneIn and Apple having a deal to have TuneIn be the exclusive radio station provider on the iPhone and charging a monthly subscription fee. I'd tell them to screw. Just like in this case I'm telling Dish and Roku to screw. I'll find the streams on my laptop and just hook that via HDMI into my tv and get what I was watching through that. Doing it through the Roku was just easy and quicker. I'll take the extra five minutes to do it the laptop way.
Dish isn't the only one entering deals with Roku. Looks like News Corp (Fox) and Sky from Britain have done the same thing: Roku Nabs $45 Million From News Corp., BSkyB in Strategic Investment - Kara Swisher - News - AllThingsD
That's just an investment, News Corp isn't banning any content we might already be getting on the device to try and get people to subscribe to their own.
That's basically the best thing to do. These deals happen all the time and that's always been the history of business. You will find the content you want from somewhere else for free and be happy. Don't be surprised though when that new site you find gets very popular and companies like Dish and Direct find out. If they are threatened by that site they will do the same thing that just happened with Roku. Guessing that the site would be similar to Roku and love to make more money, they sell out and you are left in the same position. It's like a cycle.
The thing that stinks here is that I know many people who use a Roku (not Roku 2) for foreign channels these people will lose their channels because of DISH and can't even subscribe to DISH WORLD as DISH WORLD requires a newer ROKU 2 box.
Maybe the best media streamer which can get almost anything is a PC. Someone needs to make a ROKU style easy to use front end for the PC that does not need a PHD to install. A big part of ROKUs success is its ease of use.
Maybe the best media streamer which can get almost anything is a PC. Someone needs to make a ROKU style easy to use front end for the PC that does not need a PHD to install. A big part of ROKUs success is its ease of use.
As of this morning some channels are not working like Euronews but lots of other foreign channels are up and running. May be in near future those will be gone too... enjoy it as long it lasts...
Some call it greed, some call it a smart business move. Try to imagine yourself running one on these companies and maybe you'll change your mind.
Damn, do you never stop??
I feel sorry for your customers, because you seem to have NO sense of empathy for consumers.
Man, I didn't realize you had such an issue with me. I'm not trying to be a hard-ass I'm just trying to help people think about it from both sides. I have empathy for customers that truly have a problem. I do not have that much empathy for people that always feel sorry for themselves and complain that they're being screwed over. It just doesn't do anyone any good and seems to waste everyone's time.
I sell Dish, TV's and appliances so I hear complaints on all kinds of products. After dealing with customers for so long and seeing different problems and complaints I've found that some people have serious problems and they need help. The other people just like to complain or feel entitled to what ever they want. Now, just because that's how I personally feel doesn't mean that's how I treat them. I have to treat them all equally and act as if their current issue is the most important issue there is at the time. Remember, the customer is always right.
Roku Gets $45 Million Investment from News Corp & BSkyB Satellite
Roku Gets $45 Million Investment; News Corp. Leads Funding | Inc.com
Roku Gets $45 Million Investment; News Corp. Leads Funding | Inc.com
I just don't get why it's greed, not a business decision. EuroNews is a great example. Dish sells EuroNews, and has built up international subscriptions I believe more than any other carrier, and they see competition giving it away for free, and no question illegally with EuroNews, I am not as sure but suspect with some other streams. So in this case they decided to buy out that portion of the Roku business to protect their investments rather than stand by and let it be given illegally and free.
I'm not happy if I lose the channels on Roku at all. But it's not a matter of blame, greed, or empathy. If Dish was the only game in town you would have a point, but every cable company, Direct TV, and yes, the Internet are competitors.
Now here's where I can agree with you somewhat. If Dish does not allow streams that are readily available without Roku, that are intended to be free, that makes no sense. They want Roku to succeed, why make people go somewhere else for those. But ending illegal streams may not insure they won't show up elsewhere, but Roku was the king of them. So far it appears the international news channels I watch (other than EuroNews) are still there. I will note France 24 English, a channel Dish does carry has never loaded well on Roku via livestation, and still does not, but that has been ongoing.
At least someone understands the point I was trying to make. I completely agree with your post.
