Dish Network and Wild Blue?

[cth3]

Hello,
I currently have Dish Network (Super Dish) and have an installer coming to setup WildBlue Internet.

Is there any possibility of using the same cable for WildBlue and Dish?

I would hate to have more wires running along my house with extra holes being punched.

I didnt know if the installer would be able to hook up to the switch that was installed - any chance the dish already points in the correct direction?

Thanks for the feedback!

 

[GregN]

NRTC's WildBlue Installation Manual :

http://www.wildblue.cc/wbdocs.htm

Approved WildBlue Cables:

Approved- Digital E230635 dual RG-6 cables
With and without ground wire.
Approved-Applied Telecom TKIT-A660D-1USCX
60% braid, SOLID Copper Center Conductor, Dual
Approved - Vextra RG6 Cable
V621 Single / 1000 ft on our custom 12" reel
V621B Single / 1000 ft in a convenient 17" box
V621GW Single RG6 with Ground / 1000 ft on a 14.5" reel
V2621 Dual RG6 / 1000 ft on an 18" reel
V2621GW Dual RG 6 with Ground wire
Approved - Commscope RG6 Cable
5729 Single
5731 Single RG6 with Ground
0461 Dual RG6
0467 Dual RG 6 with Ground wire
Technical Bulletin #20050929A Page 2 of 3

Approved - Belden RG6 Cable
1829AC Single / 1000 ft on our custom 12" reel
1839AC Single with Ground wire.
1841AC Dual RG6l
1840AC Dual RG 6 with Ground wire
Approved - Eagle Aspen RG6 Cable
59B3 – Dual RG6
Approved - Diamond Series by Vextra
V621BLKSP – Single RG6 / 1000 ft Black Spool
V621BLKBX – Single RG6 / 1000 ft Black Boxed
V2621BLKSP – Dual RG6 / 1000 ft Spool
V2621GWBSP – Dual RG6 w/ Ground
Approved - Laser RG6
Model LSC741 – DVC RG6 Coaxial Cable 75C E233577 UL (C) UL CMX/CATVX/CLZX 75 Ohm 3000 Mhz 0118
Approved - Perfect Vision RG/6
75 Ohm 18 AWG 75C CATV/CL2 E232510 (UL) CM
Approved - SkyWalker RG/6
SkyWalker Single Cable Model: 1209B/RG-6/ Single cable /Solid Copper Type E223989
SkyWalker Single Cable Model: 1219B/RG-6/ Dual cable /Solid Copper Type E223989
SkyWalker Single Cable Model: 1229B/RG-6/ Dual cable with gnd messenger conductor /Solid Copper Type E223989
Approved - Prime
P7600BX-PB-500 Dual RG6/ 18 AWG SC 60% Braid (AL), 17 AWG CCS Mess UL-CMX, CATVX, 3000 MHZ DBS Approved U/V E233577 38/04/ 75 Ohm 18 AWG 75C CATV/CL2 E232510 (UL) CM
Approved - Trunkline Millennium
Trunkline Millennium 2.0 TD6M60-2URB-B/ E236426 CM/CATV/CL (UL) 18 AWG 75 C RG6U 3 GHz Digital Satellite Coaxial Cable
Approved Cabling can be found at the following locations:

Vextra
http://www.vextratech.com/html/rg6-c...cable-bc.shtml
Belden
http://bwccat.belden.com/ecat/jsp/In...d&P6=undefined
Commscope
http://dominoportal.commscope.com/CommScope/Eng/specsheets2.nsf/e95a7b49c73b793285256d980045d994/$searchForm?SearchView&Seq=1

Approved WildBlue Cables:
Approved- Digital E230635 dual RG-6 cables
With and without ground wire.
Approved-Applied Telecom TKIT-A660D-1USCX
60% braid, SOLID Copper Center Conductor, Dual
Approved - Vextra RG6 Cable
V621 Single / 1000 ft on our custom 12" reel
V621B Single / 1000 ft in a convenient 17" box
V621GW Single RG6 with Ground / 1000 ft on a 14.5" reel
V2621 Dual RG6 / 1000 ft on an 18" reel
V2621GW Dual RG 6 with Ground wire
Approved - Commscope RG6 Cable
5729 Single
5731 Single RG6 with Ground
0461 Dual RG6
0467 Dual RG 6 with Ground wire
Technical Bulletin #20050929A Page 2 of 3

Approved - Belden RG6 Cable
1829AC Single / 1000 ft on our custom 12" reel
1839AC Single with Ground wire.
1841AC Dual RG6l
1840AC Dual RG 6 with Ground wire
Approved - Eagle Aspen RG6 Cable
59B3 – Dual RG6
Approved - Diamond Series by Vextra
V621BLKSP – Single RG6 / 1000 ft Black Spool
V621BLKBX – Single RG6 / 1000 ft Black Boxed
V2621BLKSP – Dual RG6 / 1000 ft Spool
V2621GWBSP – Dual RG6 w/ Ground
Approved - Laser RG6
Model LSC741 – DVC RG6 Coaxial Cable 75C E233577 UL (C) UL CMX/CATVX/CLZX 75 Ohm 3000 Mhz 0118
Approved - Perfect Vision RG/6
75 Ohm 18 AWG 75C CATV/CL2 E232510 (UL) CM
Approved - SkyWalker RG/6
SkyWalker Single Cable Model: 1209B/RG-6/ Single cable /Solid Copper Type E223989
SkyWalker Single Cable Model: 1219B/RG-6/ Dual cable /Solid Copper Type E223989
SkyWalker Single Cable Model: 1229B/RG-6/ Dual cable with gnd messenger conductor /Solid Copper Type E223989
Approved - Prime
P7600BX-PB-500 Dual RG6/ 18 AWG SC 60% Braid (AL), 17 AWG CCS Mess UL-CMX, CATVX, 3000 MHZ DBS Approved U/V E233577 38/04/ 75 Ohm 18 AWG 75C CATV/CL2 E232510 (UL) CM
Approved - Trunkline Millennium
Trunkline Millennium 2.0 TD6M60-2URB-B/ E236426 CM/CATV/CL (UL) 18 AWG 75 C RG6U 3 GHz Digital Satellite Coaxial Cable
Technical Bulletin #20050929A Page 3 of 3

Notice:
Please ensure when purchasing cable for WildBlue installations that the cable is 100% solid copper center conductor. Copper clad cabling has proven to be problematic in the field with the WildBlue system. Even if the copper clad cabling appears to work, it will often lead to service failures in the future. Using only cables from the approved list ensures successful installation and high performance with the WildBlue system.

Testing has indicated that TFC cables do not work and should not be used for the WildBlue system.

 

[JamesJ]

I think what he wants to know is can he diplex the satellite signal and the wildblue signal so he dosent have another line drop going down/into his house....I am not sure, but I am sure someone will chime in here soon!

 

[DWS44]

Which sat does WildBlue dish point to?

 

[GregN]

Cable Needs to be 100% solid copper center conductor and 3GHz.

So..... No to the diplex question.

111 slot KA

 

[SummitAdvantageRetailer]

Definitely not. If Starband can't be diplexed, then you shouldn't be able to diplex WildBlue either.

 

[JIGGIEFLY]

The WildBlue system needs to be on its own lines for there system also there would be a problem as dish is a oneway system and WildBlue is a 2 way system and cant be put on the same cableing as dish, This is what i was told during my install not sure how true it is, was just told this is why.

 

[navychop]

No to diplex, and he will need a second dish as well as 2 cable runs.

 

[DWS44]

No to diplex, and he will need a second dish as well as 2 cable runs.

2 cable runs for WildBlue, or do you mean one for Dish and one for WildBlue?

 

[JamesJ]

thanks guys for helping him out, I think thats what he meant, but we will see when the o.p. comes back!

 

[Liquidforce88]

No Wildblue will need their own two cables from the dish to the modem. One is for transmit the other is for receive.

Wildblue and DBS dishes use similar frequency ranges on the cable as well so you can't diplex them together. Also Wildblue send 24v down the transmit line so I am sure that would not be good for the Dish stuff. Infact the Wildblue dish transmits enough power that you can't be hurt by it. So The dish is required to be mount on at least a 6' pole or on a roof where people can't mess with it.

 

[Jared Twomey]

Which sat does WildBlue dish point to?

111.1

 

[cth3]

No Wildblue will need their own two cables from the dish to the modem. One is for transmit the other is for receive.

Wildblue and DBS dishes use similar frequency ranges on the cable as well so you can't diplex them together. Also Wildblue send 24v down the transmit line so I am sure that would not be good for the Dish stuff. Infact the Wildblue dish transmits enough power that you can't be hurt by it. So The dish is required to be mount on at least a 6' pole or on a roof where people can't mess with it.

OK, that was basicly what I was asking - if I could use existing cables with Wild Blue and Dish or if they both required their own.

I had a feeling that new cables would need to be ran, but wanted to check fist.

I just didnt want to see another set of black cables running along the side of my house.