Dish Pricing Update
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I'm hoping E* will realize that antagonizing their "platinum" customers is a bad move and modify the deal... Find a way to soften the blow..... If things go up 5% or so, few will bolt, but those with AEP and multiple DVRs could theoretically see 10-30% increases in their bills.
I thought only universities and the healthcare companies could get away with jumps like that.... I'm waiting for the details, but Fios is lurking with a teaser deal to pull me away....
I've been with E* since Clinton was President. It would be a shame for Charlie to get stupid and pi$$ me away as a high end customer ($2300 a year now and I am NOT going to $2700 a year)
I thought only universities and the healthcare companies could get away with jumps like that.... I'm waiting for the details, but Fios is lurking with a teaser deal to pull me away....
I've been with E* since Clinton was President. It would be a shame for Charlie to get stupid and pi$$ me away as a high end customer ($2300 a year now and I am NOT going to $2700 a year)
So lets see the positives in the new equipment charges.
First: NO PRICE INCREASE ON PROGRAMMING PACKS THIS YEAR!!!!
Second: ONE DVR FEE PER ACCOUNT instead of per receiver !!!
Third: Standardizing the price between SD and HD receiver fees : Sd and HD both 7.00 instead of 5.00 for sd and 7.00 for hd. (Okay the sd equipment is being hiked to the same price as the hd equipment , so this isn't really a positive.)
Fourth: All miscellaneous fees rolled into one equipment fee.
Let me elaborate on that last one. Presently you are being charged the dvr fee and the lease/additional receiver fee in one charge. So for the HD dvrs you are paying 12.00 (.98 discount for the dvr fee) OR 7.00 lease/additional receiver + 5.00 dvr fee.
IF you had the SD dvr it was 10.00( .98 discount for the dvr fee) OR 5.00 lease/additional receiver fee + 5.00. You are also paying the 5.00 A/0 fee if you don't keep your recievers , after the first one , plugged into a phone line.
After February 1st they will roll that A/0 fee into the new standardized equipment charge. SO they will be :
14.00 - Duo tuner receiver
17.00 - Duo tuner DVR receiver
You can still escape the dvr fees and the A/0 fee if you keep you phone lines plugged into a phone line. The dvr fees should be credited back to you in the credits section of your bill just like the A/0 fee is done today. For example they will say on the A/0 fee : YOU SAVED $ 5.00! for keeping your phone line plugged in. I am sure the dvr credit will say something similar: YOU SAVED $5.00 or $5.98! like the DISH csr is saying in the #1 post. We aren't sure yet on this one because this isn't official. Especially since it looks like Scott received information in his last post that it will be 6.00 for the dvr fee instead of 5.98 .
But the main thing to remember is your programming isn't going up next year! THey have eliminated the extra DVR fees after the first!!! They are standardizing all equipment charges for both sd and hd receivers. This is probably in order to start replacing all mepg 2 equipment so they can go all mpeg 4 on western arc setups. So lets not FREAK out until we see for ourselves in a couple of weeks what DISH releases officially. Until then lets remember this is all RUMOR and not OFFICIAL.
First: NO PRICE INCREASE ON PROGRAMMING PACKS THIS YEAR!!!!
Second: ONE DVR FEE PER ACCOUNT instead of per receiver !!!
Third: Standardizing the price between SD and HD receiver fees : Sd and HD both 7.00 instead of 5.00 for sd and 7.00 for hd. (Okay the sd equipment is being hiked to the same price as the hd equipment , so this isn't really a positive.)
Fourth: All miscellaneous fees rolled into one equipment fee.
Let me elaborate on that last one. Presently you are being charged the dvr fee and the lease/additional receiver fee in one charge. So for the HD dvrs you are paying 12.00 (.98 discount for the dvr fee) OR 7.00 lease/additional receiver + 5.00 dvr fee.
IF you had the SD dvr it was 10.00( .98 discount for the dvr fee) OR 5.00 lease/additional receiver fee + 5.00. You are also paying the 5.00 A/0 fee if you don't keep your recievers , after the first one , plugged into a phone line.
After February 1st they will roll that A/0 fee into the new standardized equipment charge. SO they will be :
14.00 - Duo tuner receiver
17.00 - Duo tuner DVR receiver
You can still escape the dvr fees and the A/0 fee if you keep you phone lines plugged into a phone line. The dvr fees should be credited back to you in the credits section of your bill just like the A/0 fee is done today. For example they will say on the A/0 fee : YOU SAVED $ 5.00! for keeping your phone line plugged in. I am sure the dvr credit will say something similar: YOU SAVED $5.00 or $5.98! like the DISH csr is saying in the #1 post. We aren't sure yet on this one because this isn't official. Especially since it looks like Scott received information in his last post that it will be 6.00 for the dvr fee instead of 5.98 .
But the main thing to remember is your programming isn't going up next year! THey have eliminated the extra DVR fees after the first!!! They are standardizing all equipment charges for both sd and hd receivers. This is probably in order to start replacing all mepg 2 equipment so they can go all mpeg 4 on western arc setups. So lets not FREAK out until we see for ourselves in a couple of weeks what DISH releases officially. Until then lets remember this is all RUMOR and not OFFICIAL.
One question, Mike. What about the "with DVR" programming packages...ie $57.99 for Silver as opposed to the base $52.99. Will that go away now?
Great response to help make sense of this, but it still looks like AEP clients will see a big increase on their bills depending on how many receivers and types they have. I have AEP, and (2) 722 & (2) 612 on my account, so it looks for me that I will be paying $28 more per month. This isn't going to make me very happy!
Yes AEP customers are going to see the biggest rate increase if they have a lot of DVR's. Unfortunately I am one of those...
I wont be a AEP customer for much longer though, which is ok with me as when I go to AT250 at least I can finally enjoy the free movie channel previews.
How about Dish standing behind their leased products instead of having to rely on DHPP? I've had to replace both of my receivers within 7 months of having them. Hoping I don't need to replace them again. If so I will still be adding DHPP, but that is another $25 in their pocket once I drop it again. The local Cable Co. still sucks in HD quality and content, but they don't charge to come out to the house or give me a replacement DVR.
Don't get me wrong, I like Dish. But a few relatively small things go a looooong way.
Don't get me wrong, I like Dish. But a few relatively small things go a looooong way.
I really think DHPP should be included in the 2 year contract. If people are willing to take a 2 year commit to Dish, then Dish should commit for 2 years to the customer.
AEP + DHPP
Maybe DHPP come be a"freebie" for AEP? Since those that have multi-DVR"s, & receivers.
Maybe DHPP come be a"freebie" for AEP? Since those that have multi-DVR"s, & receivers.
E should move to DVR receivers that use ALL EXTERNAL hard drives.
Since hard drives have moving parts they fail pretty often. Let the customer swap them out!
saves returning boxes, and better software, way too many boxes suddenly fail when the latest software hoses the box.
although this is far better than it had been.
boxes should be designed to avoid failures.
bad receivers cost subs
Since hard drives have moving parts they fail pretty often. Let the customer swap them out!
saves returning boxes, and better software, way too many boxes suddenly fail when the latest software hoses the box.
although this is far better than it had been.
boxes should be designed to avoid failures.
bad receivers cost subs
I have nothing wrong with this idea, or at the very least a hard drive on a sled/trap door. The latter would work better because I'm sure there's enough aesthetics whiners that would protest about external-only DVR solutions.
I believe the only reason why they didn't have a trapdoor was to prevent people from hacking the encryption and pulling content from the drives (or repurposing the device). However, this fear is diluted by the external drive support on DVR and non-DVR models.
Any problems I've had with DishDVR units has been the hard drive. E* hasn't been very good about sending me a working replacement the first time either. From what I've read here, non-working replacements is a rather common situation.
Dish will have a tough time keeping me if my AEP w/locals and (2) DVR's plan goes up 1 penny. Every time I see my Blues on FSN Midwest and get the "not available in your area message", I throw s&$t at my LCD!. 34 times I have to put up with that. AND THEN, when they do show a game its in SD. Hey dish $125/month will go Bye Bye if you don't change you evil ways.
Yes AEP customers are going to see the biggest rate increase if they have a lot of DVR's. Unfortunately I am one of those...
I wont be a AEP customer for much longer though, which is ok with me as when I go to AT250 at least I can finally enjoy the free movie channel previews.
I guess I'm dense, but I still don't get this. Won't AEP customers see a $6.00/mo increase (the per-account DVR fee) across the board, regardless of the number of receivers? That is, as long as they keep them hooked up to a telephone or ethernet line? If that's the case, then a customer with a lot of receivers would actually see less of an increase, percentage-wise, than one with only one or two receivers. What am I missing here?
Brad
Thats what I have been saying all along. IF you are to believe the DISH csr in the #1 post is true, you will see an actual drop in fees. I think people are thinking that they equipment fee as it is today will still be charged along with the one dvr fee for either 5.00 or 5.98 or now we hear 6.00 along with the A/0 fee for another 5.00. By the way that is what DIRECTV charges now for their dvr fee: 6.00.
IF DISH is intending on simply keeping the equipment fee as is and adding the A/0 fee into it , there will be no difference than now except you will pay one dvr fee if you have AEP. THis is what Scott G. thought in his original Multi-Channel post a few days ago. He thought that DISH was just rolling the dvr fees into the equipment fee . So in that case the AEP customers would see their bill go up by 5.00 - 6.00 depending on what they decide the dvr fee will be. Because presently if you have AEP you are already paying the per 7.00 additional receiver or lease fee. You are also paying the 5.00 A/0 fee if you don't keep your phone plugged into the receivers. THe only difference would be that they are raising the sd receivers to the same 7.00 as hd receivers . THe only thing going up would be the one dvr fee .
But I am hoping that the DISH csr would be right in post #1 of this thread and that they will subtract the dvrs fees along with the A/0 fees too. Well have to see next month. One way or another the CES show is where we will get all the detail from DISH officially.
