Dish's en banc request APPROVED!

[Greg Bimson]

Yup and guess who will soon be offering Distant Network's again.

That case was really worth it huh?

When dish applied to get their distant networks licence again, not one network objected.

Why would the networks object? The law allowed for Dish Network to have the injunction dropped and allow them back into the distant business again, so it wouldn't matter if the networks had any objections, as Dish Network was going to get their license.

The difference is this time, Dish Network is going to have to qualify anyone that wants a distant network, and one of the first qualifications is that if local-into-local is available, a waiver is required from the stations in that market. Any bets on how many waivers will be granted?

 

[riffjim4069]

Honestly, I expected more chatter on this. Is everyone finally sick of it?

Very much so! They should rename this case "The Never Ending Story." Regardless, it doesn't matter how the court rules because not one single DVR will ever be disabled - it's all a play for money.

 

[navychop]

Yep. It's all about the money. But that's how business should be run. They have an obligation to maximize return for their investors, within the law.

 

[HDRoberts]

I'll agree with the part about a never ending story, too. My bet is this is referred back to the lower court for a new trial on the new software, and we start over.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

You need to ask yourself though when did the networks really gain from the lawsuit?

Charlie came in with his ace in the hole, All American Direct so it really had no effect on him.

Back to Tivo...

Did DISH infringe on Tivos patent? I would say yes since I judge ruled that.

Did DISH come up with a work around that did not infringe on Tivos patent? I would say yes to that as well.

That is what this is now about.

 

[Curtis0620]

I'll agree with the part about a never ending story, too. My bet is this is referred back to the lower court for a new trial on the new software, and we start over.

Not likely, That would kill the patent system.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

Not likely, That would kill the patent system.

You are correct it would, and that why the judges need to rule in favor of DISH.

To say that any workaround no matter what will still infringe on Tivos patent is nuts.

 

[Curtis0620]

You are correct it would, and that why the judges need to rule in favor of DISH.

To say that any workaround no matter what will still infringe on Tivos patent is nuts.

Should have been brought up before the injunction. Now is too late for the named DVRs. DISH still has a shot for their other DVRs.

 

[whatchel1]

Maybe it will just be moved to another district court as it seems to show the bias that Fulsom seems to have in the case.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

Should have been brought up before the injunction. Now is too late for the named DVRs. DISH still has a shot for their other DVRs.

Its not too late, that what this is about.

Its also clear that they want to try saying the new DVR's infringe then they will need an entirely new trial.

 

[Curtis0620]

Its not too late, that what this is about.

Its also clear that they want to try saying the new DVR's infringe then they will need an entirely new trial.

Or only a colorably difference judgement.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

Yup which it is, its so colorably different that the work around now sports its own patent.

 

[JSheridan]

Whatever is going on caused TiVO's stock to go down 15% yesterday...

 

[navychop]

Thank you for that info.

Poker it is!

 

[Hall]

So, a few years without a DVR will be worth it?

Dish's future subsidiary "TiVo-star" will drop the case before that happens

 

[eddie willers]

Dish's future subsidiary "TiVo-star" will drop the case before that happens

SlingVo?

 

[david_jr]

Now this is more like it!!

 

[mike123abc]

Motorola sings TiVo the 'sue me, sue you' blues | Digital Media - CNET News

Motorola Sues TiVo, Claiming DVR Patent Infringement

Motorola claims TiVo violated its DVR patents...

In the complaint, Motorola says it owns multiple patents related to DVRs, including some from the mid-1990s by a group of engineers whose company was later purchased by a Motorola subsidiary. It claimed TiVo willfully infringed those patents, which were filed more than two years before TiVo's founding.

TiVo never should have gone after the phone companies, now they have MS and Moto after them...

 

[whatchel1]

Motorola sings TiVo the 'sue me, sue you' blues | Digital Media - CNET News

Motorola Sues TiVo, Claiming DVR Patent Infringement

Motorola claims TiVo violated its DVR patents...



Dish never should have gone after the phone companies, now they have MS and Moto after them...

I don't understand you last statement. It's Tivo that has MS after them.

 

[mike123abc]

I don't understand you last statement. It's Tivo that has MS after them.

I fixed up the line... should have been TiVo...