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Early Termination Fee - No Line of Sight after Moving


Just another reason I will not do contracts. I bought my equipment from an online vendor.
I also do not do contracts with wireless companies for cell service.
 
Requiring a customer to pay a fee when Dish is incapable of providing that customer service at a new location is simply a terrible business practice.
The customer & Dish did not sign a contract based on a new location, it was signed based on the previous location, and only finalized after installation was successfully completed.
 
The customer & Dish did not sign a contract based on a new location, it was signed based on the previous location, and only finalized after installation was successfully completed.

Obviously, and that doesn't really have a bearing on my point (I am a lawyer, by the way, so I understand the finer points of contract law. I just don't think enforcement of the ETF makes much sense in this situation). It's sort of like how I feel about Dish charging customers to return equipment if they cancel--it seems punitive and would probably make a former customer less likely to return in the future. That fee can be waived, at least.
 

This is the correct answer to it all. Dish is legally right and can charge the customer based on the contract signed. That's what contracts are for. Now, with that said, it doesn't make it reasonable or morally right for Dish to charge. It would be in Dish's best interest to wave that fee in an instance like this.
 

I have a Motorola Defy that allows calls over my broadband/wireless connection, rather than T-mobile cell phone towers. Unfortunately, calls made that way still consume my voice minutes.
 
I have a Motorola Defy that allows calls over my broadband/wireless connection, rather than T-mobile cell phone towers. Unfortunately, calls made that way still consume my voice minutes.

AT&T charges you $20 and you get unlimited minutes and data through the device connected to your broadband connection.
 
AT&T charges you $20 and you get unlimited minutes and data through the device connected to your broadband connection.
Sprint's is free to use, and they're even shipping it to me free. The only change is I have to pay the 911/per line charge on it, which is $1.50 in Ga.

Usage is normal, based on my unlimited data and unlimited evening calls and calls to cells. I have a bunch of minutes for calls to landlines during the day, but they're hardley ever used.
 

Wow. No wonder you guys get cranky at times, I would be too. As for me I put my faith in the techs before someone sitting in a cubicle that sometimes doesn't have a clue.
 
And no one forced you to sign a contract that included the subsidised install. Pay full price up front including the install and you can walk away when you want.


Besides the install,where is the subsidy?All the equipment is leased and has to be returned by the customer,on their dime too.Not to mention the fact,that no one forces these companies to subsidize new customers in the first place.
 
The OP, and anyone else in this situation, should call Dish for a service call and complain that their "service isn't working. It says it's 'searching for satellite'." and make them send out a tech. Keep doing that until Dish agrees to waive the ETF !
 
And no one forced you to sign a contract that included the subsidised install. Pay full price up front including the install and you can walk away when you want.

That's where the alleged "subsidy" is, in the install? What if there's no install needed? Same pricing, no contract?
 

You do not have to pay them for service you are not getting. Simply pay the fee required to end your contract. The fee you agreed to when you entered the contract.
 


They are still offering you the service at the contract residence.
 
I don't really see what the argument is here anymore. I think it's clear that the customer would be in violation of the contract and would have to pay the cancellation fee. It's up to Dish to decide it it's morally right to charge this customer being in the situation he is in. Dish has to decide if they want to waive the fee to this customer in order to keep him happy and hopefully he will come back to Dish or recommend a friend to Dish. Regardless of what everyone is saying about right and wrong, he would be in violation of his contract.
 
What's the point of this debate? The OP has not reported whether he did or didn't get relief. In fact, he hasn't even reported that he tried, based on advice here.
 

From what I have been told from someone in the Dish Loyalty Department, putting the account on Dish Pause will cost $5.00 a month. Time spent on pause does not count towards the commitment. That is the only down side. To buy out the remaining time on the contract it is $10 for every month you have remaining.
 

Hmmm. Let's see. This is the customer's perspective, and THIS....


There...That's better.
 
Hmmm. Let's see. This is the customer's perspective, and THIS....



There...That's better.

Because lord knows a business never succeeds by viewing their actions through their "customer's perspective"! Oh wait...

Dish loyalists will defend this action. Most potential customers would be turned off by it. (And I'm a mostly-satisfied Dish customer, by the way). Considering that everyone offers new customer discounts and free installation, most customers aren't going to even recognize the "subsidy," anyway.
 
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