EchoStar/Dish raises doubts about 'ability to continue as a going concern'

[llokey]

AT&T still owns 70% of DirecTV.

So if Dish and DirecTV merge and if it is not a merger of equals, then AT&T would indirectly own most of a competing cell phone provider. It seems that Dish would have to be spun off from Echostar to get this deal approved.

 

[GuyWhoMoves]

AT&T still owns 70% of DirecTV.

tick, tick, tick......

 

[meStevo]

So if Dish and DirecTV merge and if it is not a merger of equals, then AT&T would indirectly own most of a competing cell phone provider. It seems that Dish would have to be spun off from Echostar to get this deal approved.

I would only expect the pay television business to be part of the transaction, but I haven't kept up with the most recent news on this.

 

[Juan]

AT&T still owns 70% of DirecTV.

They don't control it

 

[Yespage]

It is nice to have some energy back in the forum. Haven't had much to talk about since the ransomware attack.

 

[GuyWhoMoves]

It is nice to have some energy back in the forum. Haven't had much to talk about since the ransomware attack.

Energy, yes. I have a Dish Receiver on the roof of our RV. Will. it work when the dust settles or it it be another $3000

 

[That American Girl]

It is nice to have some energy back in the forum. Haven't had much to talk about since the ransomware attack.

We do not speak its name! I still need therapy after that!

 

[tanman]

Does it require return communication with DiSH, like through phone line or wifi? Also heard that they're glitchy.

Went from a 622 to an H3. Love the H3.Very few problems .The H+ is a different story.

 

[CSM]

This looks like how they will handle Dish's debt.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/dish-network-nears-deal-convertible-213808133.html

 

[MikeD-C05]

AT&T still owns 70% of DirecTV.

TPG is the company that runs Directv and I assume will run DISH also, once they spin it off to them. I would be interested to know how that works where they do all the work of managing the company and ATT and Echostar suck out profits from them each month. I am not sure how that works. So I guess the satellites and local uplink centers will also be sold off to Directv as well. So Charlie is just pulling out of running the TV business entirely in America. I guess Echostar will still be involved in the foreign markets and their satellites? I wonder how much money Charlie is getting for DISH to make his happen? Could it be enough to pay his debts and finish the buildout on his Boost company?

 

[MikeD-C05]

So no new Hopper 4 now I guess. No more new receivers at all. Oh well. It was nice while it lasted. Glad it won't effect me since I no longer have DISH, but do have Sling TV. So if that changes and they hike prices and change everything I guess I can try another service. I have my locals on Tablo so I am good there. I just need a way to watch my cable news and some select shows on Syfy and on AMC and Fx.

 

[telstar_1]

So no new Hopper 4 now I guess. No more new receivers at all. Oh well. It was nice while it lasted. Glad it won't effect me since I no longer have DISH, but do have Sling TV. So if that changes and they hike prices and change everything I guess I can try another service. I have my locals on Tablo so I am good there. I just need a way to watch my cable news and some select shows on Syfy and on AMC and Fx.

What?!? You don't want to pay bigly for a bunch of sports?

 

[CSM]

I wonder if DTV could do one more server that would output to 4k over HDMI and run Google TV to work for both systems and for new installs?

 

[Bruce]

I wonder if DTV could do one more server that would output to 4k over HDMI and run Google TV to work for both systems and for new installs?

What 4K content would that be?

The networks are putting 4K content on their streaming services, for example, CBS Shows are in 4K on Paramount+, they are not providing/offering that same content to Live TV Providers like DirecTV or anyone else.

 

[GuyWhoMoves]

We do not speak its name! I still need therapy after that!

In the early days (sic) something called RF Mogul was used to connect to your receiver

 

[MikeD-C05]

What?!? You don't want to pay bigly for a bunch of sports?

Never liked paying for sports ever. I think they are over rated and for years I had to pay for them just so I could basic programming. Forced bundling sucked.

 

[Bruce]

Never liked paying for sports ever. I think they are over rated and for years I had to pay for them just so I could basic programming. Forced bundling sucked.

Agreed, the RSN fee that Comcast/Charter/DirecTV applies to the monthly bill, is extremely unfair for those that never watch the channel/content, which is the vast majority of subscribers.

This will be my last year with YTTV ( only have it September to January) because of Football, next year, when ESPN Streaming starts up, will be all I need along with the other streaming services.

 

[GuyWhoMoves]

Agreed, the RSN fee that Comcast/Charter/DirecTV applies to the monthly bill, is extremely unfair for those that never watch the channel/content, which is the vast majority of subscribers.

This will be my last year with YTTV ( only have it September to January) because of Football, next year, when ESPN Streaming starts up, will be all I need along with the other streaming services.

I remember when the NFL would not broadcast a game in a local area. So, I went out and bought a C & KU dish. Nice, 3K and then it was over. Someone figured out look how much $$$$$ they could make, Now they fight about why is he in the hall of fame and I am not.

 

[telstar_1]

I remember when the NFL would not broadcast a game in a local area. So, I went out and bought a C & KU dish. Nice, 3K and then it was over. Someone figured out look how much $$$$$ they could make, Now they fight about why is he in the hall of fame and I am not.

Presume you're talking about the local blackouts when stadiums weren't filled. Funny how they figured out that TV could be a moneymaker rather than simply an attendance drain, and then made everyone pay for it.

 

[GuyWhoMoves]

Presume you're talking about the local blackouts when stadiums weren't filled. Funny how they figured out that TV could be a moneymaker rather than simply an attendance drain, and then made everyone pay for it.

Yes, if one needs to know the scores, ESPN works until they charge for it.