Echostar Seeks to Change Name

bgsmallwood

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I have a question:

I confess that I don't fully understand this echostar/dishnetwork concept as being 2 different things.

Can someone explain, if the split, what is the difference between the 2 and the implications are?
 

osu1991

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I have a question:

I confess that I don't fully understand this echostar/dishnetwork concept as being 2 different things.

Can someone explain, if the split, what is the difference between the 2 and the implications are?

Dish network the programming provider is being split off from Echostar the hardware maker and commercial satellite operator.

The implications are basically that if Dishnetwork is sold then Echostar will be able to sell dvrs and such to other companies such as Directv, Comcast or anybody else that might want to use their hardware.
 

rockymtnhigh

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I have a question:

I confess that I don't fully understand this echostar/dishnetwork concept as being 2 different things.

Can someone explain, if the split, what is the difference between the 2 and the implications are?

Echostar is the parent corporation and is a large manufacturer of receivers, particularly in Europe. But earlier Dish receivers were branded Echostar...

Two brand names, one company...
 

Hall

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Why on Earth would they want to do that?
It's called "brand recognition". Do you know anyone who has "Echostar satellite service" ? Nope... Everyone has "Dish" or "Dish Network". What website do people go to when they want to sign up, echostar.com or dishnetwork.com ? What's the name of these sub-forums ? I can go if you'd like.... :D
 

MikeD-C05

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It also means that Echostar will be in charge of receivers, both U.S. and international, sling media, iptv sat service and most of the satellites-except the ones used to deliver DISHNETWORK , and DISH will be a seperate company that delivers the video from sat. Charlie will remain CEO of BOTH companies. This is a seperation for legal and business reasons. I would think that if DISH gets sold off to ATT or another company, then Charlie will still keep most of what made Echostar , Echostar. He could also go on to compete with who ever buys DISH with a newer mpeg 4 sat service at 86.5 and 97, if he still wanted to , barring any legal agreement he signs to sell DISH. It might also help spare the DISH side from any lawsuit payouts that are in play like TIVO. But from what I saw on the spread sheet someone posted about Echostar and DISH , most of the earnings come from the DISH dbs service revenue. IF they do indeed split the company into two halves , they might find themselves without a lot of money to pay for the echostar side, to develop new receivers or build new sats .
 

Stargazer

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Charlie Ergen can still be in business even if he sells Dish Network. He knows better than putting all of his eggs in one basket and wants to diversify even more under different company names.
 

MikeD-C05

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Charlie Ergen can still be in business even if he sells Dish Network. He knows better than putting all of his eggs in one basket and wants to diversify even more under different company names.

There might be some kind of non compete clause for a certain amount of time , included in the sale of DISH to any other company . This would make it very hard for CHarlie to start up a third sat company, in total mpeg 4 like he said he would do last May at team summit with DISH. I would love to have an all mpeg 4 version of DISH today for the better picture quality and the need for one 18" sat dish instead of multiple ones like today.
 

MikeD-C05

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anyone else notice with the name change thing they also announced they will be bidding in the 700mhz spectrum...wonder what they have going on?

One of the websites that I can't remember, said that Echostar /DISH might be buying up one end of the spectrum and ATT might be buying up the other end of the spectrum to combine once they buy out DISH. THen I read on another site that DISH might be trying to start up some kind of wi-fi internet service to run with their service.
 

jegrant

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Well, imagine what you could do with Slingboxes hooked up to a nationwide 700mhz broadband network. Or, for that matter, if they want to do some kind of MPEG-4 / IPTV system, why not use 700mhz bandwidth to provide IPTV locals with a dish for MPEG-4 national content? Or in urban areas where there is high population density and it's not so easy to install dishes, just use 700mhz to provide all content.
Really, it's a great piece of bandwidth to have, and the sky is the limit. I would even guess that if the new Echostar bought any 700mhz blocks, they would probably even wholesale the network to any other interested parties.

Of course, if they really do hook up the new Dish Network with at&t, it would be interesting to stick a small GSM chip in each satellite receiver. Use the at&t wireless network to "talk back" rather than plugging into a traditional phone line. Plus, although there are privacy implications, it would also allow them to get a rough idea of where all the receivers on a single account are located in relation to each other. Perhaps this could put the "Audit Police" out of a job? :D
 

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