Echostar to offer direct to device?

[Scott Greczkowski]

EchoStar plots direct-to-device satellite push after shedding Dish and debt

EchoStar plans to aggressively expand its satellite and terrestrial mobile broadband services after shedding debt and its video distribution business.

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[syphix]

What does this mean?

 

[Bobby]

What does this mean?

It gives you an idea about the future business plan for Echostar.

 

[nelson61]

What does this mean?

I would think. Not much

 

[Pepper]

What does this mean?

Preseumably, the same thing Elon Musk means when he talks about direct satellite to cellphone connection. If they can make that as inexpensive as existing cell services, and it works basically anywhere with a view to the sky, why does anyone need to pay money to VZW, TMO or ATT anymore.

 

[Jimbo]

Preseumably, the same thing Elon Musk means when he talks about direct satellite to cellphone connection. If they can make that as inexpensive as existing cell services, and it works basically anywhere with a view to the sky, why does anyone need to pay money to VZW, TMO or ATT anymore.

Does it work INSIDE ?

 

[Juan]

Preseumably, the same thing Elon Musk means when he talks about direct satellite to cellphone connection. If they can make that as inexpensive as existing cell services, and it works basically anywhere with a view to the sky, why does anyone need to pay money to VZW, TMO or ATT anymore.

Won't work with cell phones ..to much delay...but it would be a great internet service..

 

[KE4EST]

Won't work with cell phones ..to much delay...but it would be a great internet service..

Be fine for LEOs.

 

[Juan]

Be fine for LEOs.

Nope...internet will work fine.there is a reason att & verizon built cell towers instead of leo's...same with dish...too much echo on leo calls..

 

[NYDutch]

Nope...internet will work fine.there is a reason att & verizon built cell towers instead of leo's...same with dish...too much echo on leo calls..

My VOIP service worked ok using Starlink when I tested it at a friend's campsite. I didn't notice any echo.

 

[Foxbat]

D2D - Direct to Device, and Constellation - a swarm of Low-Earth Orbit (LEO) satellites to reduce connection latency. So, what, this would be yet another Starlink competitor, like Kuiper (Amazon) or Telesat? Kuiper currently needs Vulcan to fly its satellites, but at a much higher cost per launch on the (currently) expendable ULA rocket. Maybe ULA cuts them a break since Blue Origin is providing the BE4 engines for Vulcan before New Glenn starts flying.

EchoStar would need to contract with SpaceX, ULA, or the ESA to get this new constellation off the ground. I just cannot see that happening anytime soon. The Russian and Chinese rockets are off the table for the near-future.

 

[klang]

There has been some reporting in the last week about iPhone users in the flooded out regions using the satellite SOS messaging function to reach out for help. Same principle.

 

[dishdude]

What does this mean?

Exactly. Ever since they started building out this network they have never given a clear explanation of how they plan to use the spectrum.

 

[nelson61]

Exactly. Ever since they started building out this network they have never given a clear explanation of how they plan to use the spectrum.

Like shotgun coverage , over the years they have described a hodgepodge of services and said at various times, cell phone service, internet of things service, one to many (tv type ), and others I have forgotten.

I think they got infatuated with controlling spectrum and had no plans how to use it.

 

[harshness]

Nope...internet will work fine.there is a reason att & verizon built cell towers instead of leo's...same with dish...too much echo on leo calls..

The only time I've experienced echo was on a undersea cable to Alaska.

It seems theoretically impossible for a digital conversation to echo as resent packets would be rejected.

 

[Juan]

D2D - Direct to Device, and Constellation - a swarm of Low-Earth Orbit (LEO) satellites to reduce connection latency. So, what, this would be yet another Starlink competitor, like Kuiper (Amazon) or Telesat? Kuiper currently needs Vulcan to fly its satellites, but at a much higher cost per launch on the (currently) expendable ULA rocket. Maybe ULA cuts them a break since Blue Origin is providing the BE4 engines for Vulcan before New Glenn starts flying.

EchoStar would need to contract with SpaceX, ULA, or the ESA to get this new constellation off the ground. I just cannot see that happening anytime soon. The Russian and Chinese rockets are off the table for the near-future.

Or Amazon

 

[Juan]

The only time I've experienced echo was on a undersea cable to Alaska.

It seems theoretically impossible for a digital conversation to echo as resent packets would be rejected.

Echos happen on long delays on ip phone calls

https://www.quora.com/Why-is-there-an-echo-on-the-line-when-using-a-satellite-phone

 

[NYDutch]

Echos happen on long delays on ip phone calls

https://www.quora.com/Why-is-there-an-echo-on-the-line-when-using-a-satellite-phone

The article mentions the lack of echo in terrestrial calls due to the short distance, and the echo in satellite calls due to the long ~36,000 km (~22370 miles) distance. Using the Starlink sats though, the round trip distance is only ~680 miles, about the same as a long day trip by car.

 

[Foxbat]

Or Amazon Blue Origin

Fixed it for you… Since New Shepherd is not capable of launching payloads into orbit, that won’t fly for putting up a LEO D2D Constellation. New Glenn has yet to get beyond the test article stage, although the BE4 engines have now flown two missions, so all Blue Origin needs to do is build propellant tanks, guidance hardware, thrust gimbals, etc., and demonstrate that they are a viable player in the American launch providers.

Of course, if the EchoStar D2D satellite was light enough, I suppose Rocket Lab would love to demonstrate their reusable Electron capabilities. I think all they’ve managed to to reuse is an engine or two; no booster has made a second flight. They may be focusing on Neutron for its designed reusability instead. But they’re another low-cost LEO orbit launch system.

 

[Juan]

Fixed it for you… Since New Shepherd is not capable of launching payloads into orbit, that won’t fly for putting up a LEO D2D Constellation. New Glenn has yet to get beyond the test article stage, although the BE4 engines have now flown two missions, so all Blue Origin needs to do is build propellant tanks, guidance hardware, thrust gimbals, etc., and demonstrate that they are a viable player in the American launch providers.

Of course, if the EchoStar D2D satellite was light enough, I suppose Rocket Lab would love to demonstrate their reusable Electron capabilities. I think all they’ve managed to to reuse is an engine or two; no booster has made a second flight. They may be focusing on Neutron for its designed reusability instead. But they’re another low-cost LEO orbit launch system.

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What is 'Project Kuiper,' Amazon’s New Satellite Internet Initiative?

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