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[dishdude]

Well, thats pretty damn scary ...

Why? You have two methods to slow the vehicle down instead of relying solely on the brakes.

 

[Jimbo]

I would not really equate it to engine braking like you are accustomed to.

Honestly, from the passenger seat you cant tell the driver isnt using the brake pedal.

For the driver it is a much smoother experience.

I have never been able to drive an EV, so at this point ... I'm just not sure how it all works ...
Thats why I have been asking questions ... so I can learn

I take that back, I did drive an EV once for about 30 minutes, it was a Ford Maverick I believe.

 

[navychop]

And THEN, there's the Fred Flintstone method….

 

[meStevo]

I have never been able to drive an EV, so at this point ... I'm just not sure how it all works ...
Thats why I have been asking questions ... so I can learn

I take that back, I did drive an EV once for about 30 minutes, it was a Ford Maverick I believe.

Mechanically it's very different - but in practice, most EVs just feel like they have more drag on them and you have to keep the pedal down to keep them going instead of coasting - but even then there are options. My EV9 I can set to allow it to do that - have no resistance and it'll coast. Some do that to try and min/max miles on long trips (I don't). Most (like me) just leave it as-is, and I drive it mostly like normal - slowing in traffic I just ease up on the gas, and stopping at a light I only need to use the brake to bleed off the last bit of momentum to come to a smooth stop. The other extreme is available too, I can go full 1-pedal driving and increase the resistance to the point that it will capably stop as fast as you'd expect at any light or traffic transition. Options are nice, and many vehicles have them.

It largely feels the same, minor adjustment to how the vehicle starts/stops/stays at speed. Mechanically - yeah, big differences going on, as evidenced by the last dozen posts. For most the end result is just low / no maintenance and it all just kinda works.

 

[Jimbo]

And THEN, there's the Fred Flintstone method….

Yes, you have to One person version, FRED ...
Or the 2 person version, with Barney helping ....

Yaba Da Ba Doo ....

 

[Ronnie-]

Most (like me) just leave it as-is, and I drive it mostly like normal - slowing in traffic I just ease up on the gas, and stopping at a light I only need to use the brake to bleed off the last bit of momentum to come to a smooth stop. The other extreme is available too, I can go full 1-pedal driving and increase the resistance to the point that it will capably stop as fast as you'd expect at any light or traffic transition. Options are nice, and many vehicles have them.

I usually leave mine on the high setting, then use it to ease to a stop at the light. I use the brakes about once a week, but just to clean them off really.

GM has some issues here or there on some of the EVs, but one pedal driving is one thing IMO that they do better than most of the others. I definitely prefer their implementation over Tesla.

 

[osu1991]

My biggest problem is going back and forth from the EV9 to the R1T.

The EV9 I just leave on Lvl3 regenerative braking. The EV9 uses brake blending so once regenerative braking is maxed out it blends in the mechanical brakes. Also lvl3 on the EV9 doesn't bring it to a full stop, you have to use the brake pedal once it gets to 3-4mph to come to a full stop.

The Rivian is fully regenerative braking. Let off the accelerator and it comes to a full stop. The Rivian also has a more aggressive regen profile than the EV9, so sometimes when I get back in the ev9 and let off the accelerator expecting to come to a full stop then realize I'm not in the Rivian and nearly break my neck hitting the brakes at the last min to come to a full stop.

 

[meStevo]

I usually leave mine on the high setting, then use it to ease to a stop at the light. I use the brakes about once a week, but just to clean them off really.

GM has some issues here or there on some of the EVs, but one pedal driving is one thing IMO that they do better than most of the others. I definitely prefer their implementation over Tesla.

Coming from the Y I would have probably always used max i-pedal in the Kia and continued to use one-pedal, but it resets with every drive and you have to be stopped / parked to change it, so I just never did and now I'm 21 of 36 months into my lease and these habits aren't changing now

My biggest problem is going back and forth from the EV9 to the R1T.

The EV9 I just leave on Lvl3 regenerative braking. The EV9 uses brake blending so once regenerative braking is maxed out it blends in the mechanical brakes. Also lvl3 on the EV9 doesn't bring it to a full stop, you have to use the brake pedal once it gets to 3-4mph to come to a full stop.

The Rivian is fully regenerative braking. Let off the accelerator and it comes to a full stop. The Rivian also has a more aggressive regen profile than the EV9, so sometimes when I get back in the ev9 and let off the accelerator expecting to come to a full stop then realize I'm not in the Rivian and nearly break my neck hitting the brakes at the last min to come to a full stop.

Yeah, this is kinda how I felt when we had the Y and a 90s Tahoe. Such different driving profiles between the two, on top of one pedal vs standard driving.

 

[telstar_1]

And where did you see those words in the article.

Near the beginning. And if the argument to follow is that this wasn't part of the "actual article," that is going to be rather lost on me. I neither need nor appreciate a "pre-article" to help me to either comprehend or decide to read an actual "article".

Huh? Think you meant to quote my post.

You'd prefer just a video you'd have to watch to get any of that information rather than a summary that lets you know if the content might be worth your time?

I prefer reading to video. A good headline works for me as to proceeding into an article, and good article writing captures its essence in its first couple of sentences to either draw you in or let you out as case may be. All of the bullet-pointing is to me just a pile of crutches I don't want or need. Plus it signals (at least to me) a likely AI article, which I definitely have no use for.

 

[Neutron]

Chevy and Cadillac scale back EV plans as GM shifts to gas

Chevrolet is the second most popular EV brand in the US behind Tesla, while Cadillac carved out a market in...

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GM just setting themselves up to fall further behind foreign auto groups

I saw this as well. As an owner of two of GM's EVs, I sure hope that GM doesn't abandon their EV platform entirely. It really is good, but the software feels half-baked and GM can definitely improve upon that.

 

[meStevo]

Near the beginning. And if the argument to follow is that this wasn't part of the "actual article," that is going to be rather lost on me. I neither need nor appreciate a "pre-article" to help me to either comprehend or decide to read an actual "article".


I prefer reading to video. A good headline works for me as to proceeding into an article, and good article writing captures its essence in its first couple of sentences to either draw you in or let you out as case may be. All of the bullet-pointing is to me just a pile of crutches I don't want or need. Plus it signals (at least to me) a likely AI article, which I definitely have no use for.

So you just didn't understand (still don't?) what was posted then, got it. Literally in the post in question (and other posts where I'm just linking to a video) is "Here is a summary of the video...".

There is no article to link to.

 

[osu1991]

Near the beginning. And if the argument to follow is that this wasn't part of the "actual article," that is going to be rather lost on me. I neither need nor appreciate a "pre-article" to help me to either comprehend or decide to read an actual "article".


I prefer reading to video. A good headline works for me as to proceeding into an article, and good article writing captures its essence in its first couple of sentences to either draw you in or let you out as case may be. All of the bullet-pointing is to me just a pile of crutches I don't want or need. Plus it signals (at least to me) a likely AI article, which I definitely have no use for.

So you didn't read any of the article as those words are not anywhere it or in the preview the forum software pulled from the link. You just want to troll…got it….someone else to ignore.

 

[osu1991]

I saw this as well. As an owner of two of GM's EVs, I sure hope that GM doesn't abandon their EV platform entirely. It really is good, but the software feels half-baked and GM can definitely improve upon that.

My sister's 2025 Acadia uses the android automotive software that the GM EVs use and it's definitely buggy.

 

[telstar_1]

Mechanically it's very different - but in practice, most EVs just feel like they have more drag on them and you have to keep the pedal down to keep them going instead of coasting - but even then there are options. My EV9 I can set to allow it to do that - have no resistance and it'll coast. Some do that to try and min/max miles on long trips (I don't). Most (like me) just leave it as-is, and I drive it mostly like normal - slowing in traffic I just ease up on the gas, and stopping at a light I only need to use the brake to bleed off the last bit of momentum to come to a smooth stop. The other extreme is available too, I can go full 1-pedal driving and increase the resistance to the point that it will capably stop as fast as you'd expect at any light or traffic transition. Options are nice, and many vehicles have them.

It largely feels the same, minor adjustment to how the vehicle starts/stops/stays at speed. Mechanically - yeah, big differences going on, as evidenced by the last dozen posts. For most the end result is just low / no maintenance and it all just kinda works.

How does turning off regen braking in an EV increase range? Like in a certain kind of driving where no braking (or braking effect) is ordinarily necessary, such as on road with hills and no stops? Or traffic slowing/stopping in front of you? So you (would) drive to get the most forward momentum out of downslope coasting rather than having some of it go back to the battery? The one being more efficient than the other?

 

[meStevo]

How does turning off regen braking in an EV increase range? Like in a certain kind of driving where no braking (or braking effect) is ordinarily necessary, such as on road with hills and no stops? Or traffic slowing/stopping in front of you? So you (would) drive to get the most forward momentum out of downslope coasting rather than having some of it go back to the battery? The one being more efficient than the other?

The core argument is that regen has round-trip losses: motor → battery → motor conversion isn't free. If you don't actually need to shed speed (open downhill, no stops ahead), letting the car coast and carry that momentum forward beats capturing it as electricity and re-spending it later. If braking is unavoidable anyway, regen is still better than friction brakes wasting it as heat. It's a debatable practice that isn't the easiest to quantify with any consistency.

 

[Ronnie-]

My sister's 2025 Acadia uses the android automotive software that the GM EVs use and it's definitely buggy.

It's not quite the same. It is similar. The 25 Silverado I had came with Android automotive that ran on the same build my 26 Silverado ev has. But there were slight differences, and the 26 operates much more smoothly.

I'm not sure what the software differences are tbh, but being an ev, the new one has options the other doesn't have.

 

[Ronnie-]

I have never been able to drive an EV, so at this point ... I'm just not sure how it all works ...
Thats why I have been asking questions ... so I can learn

I often tell people, driving one is the actual selling point. Obviously you don't know what you don't know. Asking questions is a big help.

Often misconceptions, like you've had, are simply unfounded based on just not knowing.

I take that back, I did drive an EV once for about 30 minutes, it was a Ford Maverick I believe.

That's a hybrid. While it is similar in some respects, it's a different platform really.

 

[Jimbo]

I often tell people, driving one is the actual selling point. Obviously you don't know what you don't know. Asking questions is a big help.

Often misconceptions, like you've had, are simply unfounded based on just not knowing.


That's a hybrid. While it is similar in some respects, it's a different platform really.

Thats right, it is a Hybrid, I knew that, but forgot.

That said :
Why would a Hybrid be better or worse than a straight EV ?

 

[Ronnie-]

The core argument is that regen has round-trip losses: motor → battery → motor conversion isn't free. If you don't actually need to shed speed (open downhill, no stops ahead), letting the car coast and carry that momentum forward beats capturing it as electricity and re-spending it later. If braking is unavoidable anyway, regen is still better than friction brakes wasting it as heat. It's a debatable practice that isn't the easiest to quantify with any consistency.

We drove out lyriq with one pedal off for a long time. I actually found I got better efficiency coasting. If I really worked at it. Worse if I didn't.

It's much simpler and honestly just better to do one pedal.

 

[Ronnie-]

Thats right, it is a Hybrid, I knew that, but forgot.

That said :
Why would a Hybrid be better or worse than a straight EV ?

You still have all of the maintenance of an ice. With better fuel economy (than an ice vehicle)


Personally, I think full ev is better, simpler, and the way to go. Maybe not for everyone. But for me.

You get even better "fuel economy " without ALOT of the maintenance you're accustomed to.