Fill In Transmitters

[Mister B]

For years I have tried to get KRWG-TV from New Mexico State University (see my avatar). I could get a usable signal back in the analog days but when they went digital they moved their tower which is behind a tall mountain in my line of sight. I do get an occasional stable signal on some mornings if I turn my antenna that way but otherwise gave up on it long ago.
I was very excited when I read on their web site that they now provide an OTA signal for El Paso. However, when I dug into the technical details on rabbit ears I expected trouble when I read that they are using the same rf 23 as the main signal. Also, I am over 18 miles from the 3.15 KW transmitter.
Sure enough, when I scanned for new channels the signal breaks up continually and has only occasional audio. I am getting a signal strength of 92 but signal quality of only 10. This is with a moderate GE attic/outdoor antenna with clear line of sight to KFOX's tower (that KRWG is using in El Paso). I also tried the 4 bay antenna I put up for my neighbor at a higher 20 feet with the same results.
I suspect the problem to be that I get just enough of the main channel 23 to interfere with the local signal. Ten years ago I would have been tempted to try a higher and more directional antenna but I am a bit past that stage at this point. I also feel the chances of success are rather slim.
I wonder if KRWG wanted to use the same rf 23 or were forced into the situation as there are almost no empty slots on UHF in this area. I almost wish they hade used high VHF.
Do any members know of any area where these multi-transmitter set ups work well? They claim it will be feasible with ATSC 3.0 but I am not holding my breath for that.
I thought this would be interesting for members who frequent this site. Below is my rabbit ears report.

https://www.rabbitears.info/searchmap.php?request=result&study_id=2865469

 

[Mr Tony]

You should be within range. They posted a article about coming online in El Paso just recently

KRWG-TV expands free over-the-air service to El Paso

KRWG Public Media is excited to announce that KRWG-TV is now available free over the air on Channel 22 for viewers throughout the El Paso area.

newsroom.nmsu.edu

 

[comfortably_numb]

I like New Mexico PBS here in Albuquerque, but I've seen KRWG on Directv when staying in hotels in southern Colorado and they have good programming. Ironic that they can't provide a translator here in the metro but if you have satellite you can get it anywhere in the state. They also have a livestream but you can't watch it unless your IP is located in their coverage area. A VPN would do it but I don't know of any VPN's with IP's in eastern NM.

Is there some sort of "lifeline" DTV Stream service that just offers locals?

 

[Mr Tony]

I like New Mexico PBS here in Albuquerque, but I've seen KRWG on Directv when staying in hotels in southern Colorado and they have good programming. Ironic that they can't provide a translator here in the metro but if you have satellite you can get it anywhere in the state. They also have a livestream but you can't watch it unless your IP is located in their coverage area. A VPN would do it but I don't know of any VPN's with IP's in eastern NM.

The station just launched a translator in El Paso on Friday per news reports so maybe he tried before they launched it. He IS in the market so he can stream it. You are overthinking it.
KRWG should only be available in the El Paso market for Dish/Directv. They are not on satellite in Albuquerque per what I see nor nothing on Krwg website

Where To Watch And Listen

Where To Watch And Listen

www.krwg.org

Is there some sort of "lifeline" DTV Stream service that just offers locals?

No

 

[comfortably_numb]

Ok I was confusing KRWG with KNME PBS from Eastern NM, which IS broadcast in ABQ and north via DTV (statewide I imagine).

 

[Mr Tony]

Ok I was confusing KRWG with KNME PBS from Eastern NM, which IS broadcast in ABQ and north via DTV (statewide I imagine).

Almost statewide. The eastern counties and the one by El Paso are different DMA

You do get KENW from Eastern NM who argued with FCC a decade ago about them being moved to Lubbock market.

Thread 'What happen to KENW-DT out of Portales, NM?'

Jan 3, 2015

I hope they did not drop this fine PBS station out of Portales unless is weather realated.

I am in Albuquerque TV market DMA.

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[comfortably_numb]

You do get KENW from Eastern NM who argued with FCC a decade ago about them being moved to Lubbock market.

Yes, that's the one I'd like to get here (downtown Albuquerque). I get KNME via OTA. Looks like DTV is the only way to get it.

 

[Mr Tony]

Yes, that's the one I'd like to get here (downtown Albuquerque). I get KNME via OTA. Looks like DTV is the only way to get it.

Satellite would be the only way due to it being on the far eastern side of state
can you view it via internet?

 

[comfortably_numb]

can you view it via internet?

No, even though it's supposed to be in my DMA.

 

[dfergie]

Yes, that's the one I'd like to get here (downtown Albuquerque). I get KNME via OTA. Looks like DTV is the only way to get it.

I get both from D* ones on channel 3 the other on channel 5.

 

[Mr Tony]

No, even though it's supposed to be in my DMA.

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I think it has to do more with satellite coverage than OTA. Bummer it doesn't work for you

 

[comfortably_numb]

I think it has to do more with satellite coverage than OTA. Bummer it doesn't work for you

I'm not sure why they're blocking the livestream though, my ZIP Code should qualify

 

[primestar31]

I'm not sure why they're blocking the livestream though, my ZIP Code should qualify

Try the free internet that comes with your apartment, versus the paid one you usually use. Maybe that will show a different location that will work.

 

[comfortably_numb]

Try the free internet that comes with your apartment, versus the paid one you usually use. Maybe that will show a different location that will work.

They both use the same ISP (Comcast) using the same pool of IP's

Doesn't work over cellular either

 

[navychop]

So the guys tracking you messed up? Or just made their job easier?

 

[comfortably_numb]

So the guys tracking you messed up? Or just made their job easier?

 

[TRG]

They both use the same ISP (Comcast) using the same pool of IP's

Doesn't work over cellular either

I just checked on my crappy Centurylink DSL connection. Same result as you.

 

[comfortably_numb]

I just checked on my crappy Centurylink DSL connection. Same result as you.

I emailed the station to see what's up. I wonder if they have some kind of "back room agreement" with KNME to not allow people in ABQ and SF to stream, even though we should be entitled to do so since we're in their DMA..

 

[comfortably_numb]

 

[comfortably_numb]

Received a response from KENW. Not sure this information is accurate. They can provide the feed to ABQ if I have satellite, but not if I'm not within transmitter range? A DMA is a DMA, right? Can PBS choose to not provide a livestream if someone is "outside transmitter range" but within the DMA?

Trip any guidance?