First time setting up a Coolsat 6000

[John Popper]

Im trying to set up this thing, for example, my analog receiver/positioner has moved the Dish to AMC10 135 West (My LNBF is a C/Ku LNBF 2-D dedicated from DMS international), what info should I fill in the "Dish Setting" section?

I know Satellite is AMC10
LNB Power ? (ON I suppose?)
LNB Type ? (Universal?)
LNB Freq ? it currently shows 09.750 /10.600 should I keep it like this?
22 KHZ ? it currently shows AUTO
Diseqc Swith (OFF? because right now I am setting only C Band, Ill tackle Ku Band once I get C Band)
Legacy SW ? it currently shows "sw21 dish 1"

Im also having problems trying to deselect the disecq motor on all sats (this is a used unit and I guess the person that had it before me had a disecq motor) do I need to deselect manually each satellite or is there a way to completely shut off the diseqc motor aspect since everytime I try to change a satellite it keeps on showing me a "moving to sat xyz" screen tag


thanks!

 

[Dannymcenrow]

One thing I know for sure is that you need to turn off Lnb power.
Because you have it slaved with your analog receiver and that one is already sendng signal to the lnb.
If you turn on lnbpower I don't know but if you did it you probably blew your lnb because then it gets like 2 times18 volts and that's 36 volts then you mess up your lnb.
Lnb type I don't know much about but lnb frequency forC BAND should be 5150 mhz I think i'm not good at remebering numbers but try that 5150 mhz for c band.
Te number you are saying is probbly for Ku but for C band has to be something like that.
Diseqc swicth should be off because you're using the analog receiver to move the dish so you're not using Diseqc.
Legacy sw I don't know what that is.
But try those and see if t works.

 

[1ADAM12]

hi John,

Diseqc Swith (OFF? because right now I am setting only C Band, Ill tackle Ku Band once I get C Band)
Legacy SW ? it currently shows "sw21 dish 1"

If you are setting up C band then you want to choose Standard, 5150.
What you list is for the Ku universal lnbf at the back of the lnbf.
Turn your switch settings Off. No 22Kz, no Dedicated, no Commited.

For every satellite you have the option of adding a motor.

 

[Mr Tony]

Im trying to set up this thing, for example, my analog receiver/positioner has moved the Dish to AMC10 135 West (My LNBF is a C/Ku LNBF 2-D dedicated from DMS international), what info should I fill in the "Dish Setting" section?

I know Satellite is AMC10

correct

LNB Power ? (ON I suppose?)

if its slaved, turn to OFF

LNB Type ? (Universal?)

SINGLE

LNB Freq ? it currently shows 09.750 /10.600 should I keep it like this?

5150

22 KHZ ? it currently shows AUTO

OFF

Diseqc Swith (OFF? because right now I am setting only C Band, Ill tackle Ku Band once I get C Band)
Legacy SW ? it currently shows "sw21 dish 1"

turn the rest off

Im also having problems trying to deselect the disecq motor on all sats (this is a used unit and I guess the person that had it before me had a disecq motor) do I need to deselect manually each satellite or is there a way to completely shut off the diseqc motor aspect since everytime I try to change a satellite it keeps on showing me a "moving to sat xyz" screen tag

The best thing to do might be a factory reset. Otherwise to change the motor its
installation
motorized setting
go to diseqc motor and change to OFF
save

you'll have to do that to each satellite

 

[John Popper]

Thanks to all, Im trying the settings you all recommended, will keep you posted

 

[John Popper]

Ive followed the instructions and im testing on strong satellites (for me AMC10 and Galaxy 16) but ive yet to see a single MPEG2 FTA feed or channel. I dont know what I am doing wrong but its perplexing and frustrating . The "level" and "quality" bars are nonexistent when I select LNB Power "OFF" and LNB type "single", and when I select "ON" and "Universal" respectively I do get around 90% of "level" and very low levels of quality. The blind scans are taking like 10 minutes and have not shown me a single viewable channel.
Im using the skyvision FTA guides to kind of check out what channels are available, based on that I try to do manual and PID scans and likewise have yet to found something that works, despite like I said I can see strong signals on my analog receiver.
Anyone have any recommendation? do the skyvision guides even updated, what guides do you guys use?

Thanks again!

 

[Mr Tony]

how is the LNB hooked up? Is it hooked directly to the 6000 or the analog receiver?

 

[John Popper]

I disconnected the analog receiver about an hour ago to avoid problems, the LNB C band cable is going directly to the Coolsat but the problems remain, maybe it's a weak signal thing? I really don't know, however the Satellites I have tested have been the ones in which I get strong analog signals like G16, G14, AMC10, AMC11. But throughout all the tests just a couple of times have the quality bars reach above 50 or gotten green.

Another thing I mentioned earlier is that this Coolsat was used, maybe I should do a factory reset and try after that?

 

[John Popper]

Update, I finally found a channel, TELEFUTURA on AMC 10, I had to get on the roof and move around the LNB in order to get a better signal!!!! making progress as I type!

 

[John Popper]

Ive noticed that the blind scans take a looooong time while auto scan is faster, what is the main difference? if I want to maximize the amount of channels should I always use blind scan or can I rely on autoscans?

 

[Lak7]

Auto Scan only checks the Transponders that are already entered for that Sat.
Blind Scan checks all possible Frequencies.

So to find channels, use Blind Scan.

 

[Mr Tony]

you might have to do a trial and error on the LNB setup. I know with my C-Band LNB's I have to

You might want to do a factory reset if you are just starting...cleans out the possible issues. Thats the first thing I do when I get a previously enjoyed Coolsat 5000

 

[John Popper]

How do you add a new satellite? I'm reading the manual but I don't see anything regarding that. Since I did the factory reset AMC10 @ 135 and AMC21 @ 125 are no longer in the sat list. Can I just use one of those 0.0 sats instead and change the name?

 

[Mr Tony]

yes you can

Otherwise if you have a RS232 cable you can update the satellite list. A while back I made a list of all the KU & C-Band sats from 72-139 in order. First KU then C-Band. It also has some of the stronger transponders on it.

I attached the files. Just unzip them. Hook up the RS232 cable to the Coolsat and the computer
open loader
select the "channels" tab
hit "browse" to find the "master" file that is saved on your computer (make sure to unzip this too)
press connect and it will show the software version in the receiver
press "start" and let it load and the receiver reboot

done

 

[John Popper]

another issue that's stomping me is the fact that on one satellite (AMC10 135) in order to watch TELEFUTURA, BLOOMBERG and G4 the LNB setup was (ON, Universal, 9.750 - 10.600, auto, off, off) while on another satellite (Galaxy 16 99) in order to semi get (weak signal) WHT the LNB setup is completely different (ON, Single, 5.150, off, off, off), shouldn't ALL dish settings be the same if I only wanna watch C Band feeds?

 

[Mr Tony]

correct
all C-Band settings are
SINGLE
5150

 

[John Popper]

also, how do I interpret the frequencies using an LNB Type "universal" (the only one that has worked so far for me) in which the numbers are between 9.750 - 10.600?
for instance in every guide Ive seen and on Lyngsat TELEFUTURA on AMC10 is listed as H-3780 29.200 yet on my receiver it shows as: 11.969 H 29.200

in short, when I do a blind scan using the LNB single type I get nothing, when I do it as Universal I get some feeds but the frequency numbers are weird

 

[John Popper]

correct
all C-Band settings are
SINGLE
5150

Ice what do you suggest I try then?

 

[Mr Tony]

something sounds odd because if you set it for single 5150 it should work fine

 

[Mr Tony]

also, how do I interpret the frequencies using an LNB Type "universal" (the only one that has worked so far for me) in which the numbers are between 9.750 - 10.600?
for instance in every guide Ive seen and on Lyngsat TELEFUTURA on AMC10 is listed as H-3780 29.200 yet on my receiver it shows as: 11.969 H 29.200

That would be correct as you have the wrong LNB LO frequency
The rule of thumb to find the frequency is this. For C-Band take the frequency (3780) from 5150 and you get 1370 IF frequency
KU you ADD the IF frequency (1370) to the LNB Frequency (10600) and you get 11970...its off by 1 but thats fine

The LNB doesnt care what you have the LNB frequency set to....when you blind scan it takes the IF frequency (950-2150) and pops in channels. You could set it to 11250 which is a DBS setup and still get the same C-Band chanenls

So when you set the frequency to SINGLE 5150 and blind scan you get nothing?