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FOX News Channel/DISH dispute
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if they actually showed some news and not the latest hollywood inspired dramatized headline grabbing theory, they might be watchable, but alas like the weather channel that rarely shows weather, they are blocked out in my guide
Politics aside, all news channels got a bump over the Ferguson/NY issues recently. Fox News has been beating CNN in the ratings for years, so "momentum" would not be the correct term. All the "news" channels are no longer "general news channels", so trying to say Fox News is not and CNN or MSNBC is, would be overstating a bit. And last, as for CNN recent ratings, in November 2014, "CNN's Monday’s 9pm ET timeslot on CNN drew 181,000 total viewers, the lowest for the time period since at least Oct. 1, 1991". So, you can let your politics bend your views, but numbers are numbers. Here are the links:
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/cnn-hits-new-ratings-low-monday-night_b245708
Ratings for 12/11/2014
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2014/12/12/cable-news-ratings-for-thursday-december-11-2014/338628/
Live + Same Day Cable News Daily Ratings for Thursday, December 11, 2014
Total Day P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FOXN 1,287 229 492
CNN 398 106 191
MSNBC 359 80 145
CNBC 167 53 68
FBN 52 13 22
HLN 319 147 192
Just to be clear, I do not watch any of these "news" channels, and I support Dish trying to get the best deal possible, even if it means some down time. I do not subscribe to the "pay whatever they are asking" policy. I am not rich, so I need to save wherever I can.
Many of us aren't switching back and forth anymore. I cut off Dish last December when they announced the package and hopper fee increases and I haven't missed it at all. I don't watch a ton of TV and I realized that a good chunk of what I actually watched was programming I could get OTA for free. I supplement that with Netflix, Amazon Prime, the occasional iTunes Season Pass and MLB.tv and I'm perfectly happy with that setup. I'm saving a lot of money and I'm paying for exactly what I want instead of a bunch of stuff I don't actually watch.
I realize that at 27 I'm in a different age bracket than many people here. TV habits are changing though. Out of my group of friends I would say about half of us don't subscribe to cable/satellite. Some of these people have never had traditional pay TV since they first got a place of their own after college. For people my age, cable/satellite isn't the required utility it was for people in my parents' generation. We get more of our content from the internet than anywhere else.
Basically, my point is that this isn't some never ending cycle of people switching between Dish, Directv, and Cable. Prices continue to go up and people paying those high prices continue to be negatively affected when these disputes happen. Every time this happens you see more and more of us decide that these high prices aren't worth it when we still aren't guaranteed to have the channels we signed up for.
I was talking about Fox's ratings increase momentum. Fox's increase was more about the blood in the water to me. Fox certainly is killing the competition, but I think their growth potential is limited because they lack a crossover appeal.
I certainly wouldn't say MSNBC or CNN are quality news channels... or even news channels. And while MSNBC has tried to become a "liberal" version of Fox News, it isn't working... and it isn't because they haven't tried. It is the same reason Air America didn't pan out. That demographic doesn't buy into that sort of media model.
And after they tried to be so inclusive too.
I expect about 50% of Dish customers would not miss FNC being off for a while and many would even be pleased. The other 50% or so would miss it badly. Fox needs Dish for the ratings, and Dish needs Fox to keep a large amount of their customers. Surely they can work it out without FNC going dark. I sure hope the new agreement includes Dish customers to stream FNC live without having to do it thru Dishanywhere.
Dish hasn't dropped many channels, so the idea that FNC would go away would be very unlikely.
Just make all of the cable "news" channels alacate.
Our bills are already going up at least 5 dollars without this fox news deal being done and at least 50% of subscribers probably either don't care about or flat out don't want this channel (as is also the case with the other so-called cable "news" channels).
Dish won't continue to stay in business if prices don't get under control.
Our bills are already going up at least 5 dollars without this fox news deal being done and at least 50% of subscribers probably either don't care about or flat out don't want this channel (as is also the case with the other so-called cable "news" channels).
Dish won't continue to stay in business if prices don't get under control.
I think this post is spot on... I have watched both in question....One Channel preaches pure hate and political opinion....The other preaches political opinion....Im sorry hating some one for what ever reason, then running "news" related segments to push there opinion and more hate is pure sick....any one who has watched the two understand the difference from hate speech and opinion!
I wanna live where you do!
There's no way in hell that 50% of the customers watch any one of the news channels. I watch all of them at different times and the total watch time is less than 1 hour a day.
The one that is actually on more than all the rest is HLN with Robin Meade and that doesn't have anything to do with news at all!!
If Charlie thinks he's going to raise my rates next month and then stop carrying Fox News channel to save a few pennies, he's got another thing coming. Fox News gets big ratings, no matter what the no-nothings on this board say. If anything, Fox is underpaid for this channel, not overpaid. Dump one of the sports channels to pay for it.
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