I can't recall any recent negotiation over MSNBC, but I am sure if there was one, it was a simple one that we never heard any fuss over.Was there a recent negotiation with MSNBC, as well? I don't recall that.
It wasn't resolved. They came to a temporary (I believe three month) agreement just before the TBS and TNT contracts expired. I don't think Dish wants to be without TBS and TNT, so the two sides came together to give themselves more time to negotiate.Cnn was resolved because no one watches that channel and they simply couldn't ask more money for it. The nightly ratings during primetime show that. Worse than Cnn in the ratings is now MSNBC. I agree that when this generation of cable tv viewers dies out , so will cable news stations.
A lot of people always complain. Very few people actually act on the threat of changing providers. Complicating the mix is many viewers are on contract and they cannot change. Plus there is a hassle factor with it. And as we age we lose tolerance for learning new things on remotes, etc, on how to control the technology. No doubt, some will switch. But in reality this is about forced bundling with other Fox channels. If Dish caves our rates go up. Dish knows that fees getting to $100 a month is a breaking point for many viewers.
I have to wonder why the CNN issue was suddenly resolved.....if this was part of a master plan Dish couldn't be down two news channels.
Unfortunately that's true. We were talking with my Father-In-Law yesterday and he was preparing to change providers over Fox. He had totally bought in to Fox's statement that mean old Dish was blocking them. We talked him down by explaining the other side of the story. We are big fans of FNC, but this isn't worth a change in providers. We've been with other providers and in the end the equipment just doesn't come close. I am beginning to try to find some other way to get FNC though. Maybe a Roku or basic subscription to the local cable just to get FNC.
Unnecessaryi say, good let the ratings drop as this hurts channels when they are in dispute. especially Fox News
i'll say this before it gets lock due to politics when someone thread jacks this thread and does what the other fox related threads have done, but:
In before the lock,
Where can the "how to" be discussed at, pray tell?It can be done with the roku. I don't think the how to can be discussed here, but I am watching FNC live.
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though even with that, they still got more viewers than CNN and MSNBC… combined.
It has nothing to do with being old young man. Enjoy your youth while it lasts, because before you know it, you will be the old one.
“They are both founders of their companies and that makes for a tougher negotiation and less backing off any kind of position,” says Harold Vogel, a veteran Wall Street media analyst and author of Entertainment Industry Economics: A Guide for Financial Analysts, which this month publishes its 9th edition.
“It is founder against founder,” Vogel tells The Hollywood Reporter. “That’s a different dynamic than we’ve seen in a lot of these fights and it points to a much longer, more brutal battle than we’ve had in previous similar instances.”
Both sides have things to lose, but those things which might push others to settle appear to mean a lot less in this case.
A source at Fox News says the dispute is over carriage of Fox Sports 1 and the FXX Network, not over Fox Business channel as stated in an earlier version of this article.
Need to be careful. I think violating the laws of physics is also against the Board rules.HA! So says you. I plan on staying young forever.
Sounds like this is a battle between two HUGE Egos. The continued losing lawsuits from FOX over the hopper and the back history between Murdoch and Ergen are only going to make this dispute go even longer. I see Charlie Ergen dropping the channels before he gives in on this one and I can't blame him.Wall Street Analyst: Fox News Blackout On Dish Could Drag On
Not a very well written article, but the gist is that since both Charlie and Rupert are the founders of their respective empires, they're willing to tough it out longer than when the dynamic is different:
One interesting tidbit at the bottom of the piece, an apparent confirmation of which channels are causing the stalemate:
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