Well ... I've spotted a couple BUDS in my neighborhood. I'm going to knock on their doors tomorrow to see if they would like to have them disposed of for free (>: One doesn't even have an LNB on it. So, hopefully that one will be for the taking. If I have to buy a new one, I've got my eye on the Fortec Star 240cm (FC08P). I've noticed the wild fluctuation in prices on the C-Band dishes. One place will ask $365, and the next will ask $799.00 for the same exact dish. As of today, I haven't found a single new 240cm dish for sale in all of Socal. Every time I find one it's on the East Cost where I have to pay a fortune to ship it. Most of the places I've emailed (found on Google) don't even reply. Some of them I've called have been quite rude on the phone "We don't have it, were not getting any more, so goodbye). What a NIGHTMARE! Anyway, I haven't given up yet. So lets see what tomorrow brings.