Yea, I know what you mean. Bought an upgraded HD Tivo from Weeknees in April and 2 weeks later found this forum and found out about mpeg4 and now this ST crap. Gave the wife my old HDVR2 and if I try to take that away in protest I'd pull back a bloody stump. Jaded13, Sorry bout the REMF remark. Way outta line brother. Don't know you, can't judge you. But you've got to admit, to jack things up this much without any kind of forplay is like going to mama sans and, well, you know!