Hopper 3 Arctic circle set up.

[Gdsmith07]

Hello everyone, I’m breaking down and asking for help. Here’s the sitch

currently working on the North slope in Alaska and staying at a man camp. The camp is two years old and very nice. However they’ve been trying to install dishnetowrk at the camp for 2 years. Being a new worker to the area I’ve taken on the task.

The full system sent was the hopper 3, I ran a dual cable from the LNB to the DPH42 then A new jumper cable from the DPH42 to the power inserter then the power inserter to the hopper 3 receiver.

from what I’ve read I need an updated LNB I’m using a 36” dish that I’ve flipped upside down to get a lower degree signal. The degree of elevation recommend is 8.1°. The current LNB is an old school dual LNB from what I’ve read I need to upgrade the LNB but I don’t know what to upgrade it to. I’m also having trouble pinning down the satellite. Anyone have any recommendations on a cheap sat finder that works well???

I was told I need to line in a network Hub but while perusing the site it seems I don’t need a network hub unless I’m running dual hoppers or more than 3 joeys with a super Joey set up??

please any direction is worth it any help is appreciated. Trying to get to watch

 

[pattykay]

For the DPH42 switch to work, any LNB you feed into it must be DPP (Dish Pro Plus). The really old LNB's will not work, and neither will the newer Hybrid LNB's. The Hybrid Solo Hub would be needed if you have any Joeys. If you are only installing the Hopper 3 without any Joeys, then the Hub would not be needed.

 

[Gdsmith07]

So I would need the DPP 500 western arc? As the 1000.2 is a LNBF Hybrid correct ?
There are separated joeys but I’m not as worried in getting them set up at the moment.

 

[Gdsmith07]

So I would need the DPP 500 western arc? As the 1000.2 is a LNBF Hybrid correct ?
There are separated joeys but I’m not as worried in getting them set up at the moment.

This is the current LNB and dish configuration. I need the 36” dish to acquire signal. How do the DPP 500’s attach to this style of dish.

 

[pattykay]

So I would need the DPP 500 western arc? As the 1000.2 is a LNBF Hybrid correct ?
There are separated joeys but I’m not as worried in getting them set up at the moment.

There is an older model of 1000.2 LNB that is DPP. If you can get all three satellites (110, 119, 129) then the 1000.2 DPP would be needed. For 110 and 119 only, the DPP 500 LNB should work. I am not sure how to attach the LNB's, so someone else here will have to help you with that.

 

[Gdsmith07]

There is an older model of 1000.2 LNB that is DPP. If you can get all three satellites (110, 119, 129) then the 1000.2 DPP would be needed. For 110 and 119 only, the DPP 500 LNB should work. I am not sure how to attach the LNB's, so someone else here will have to help you with that.

Thank you for the input! To pick your brain a little more do I need to hit atleast 119 and 119 or can I only acquire 119 and be fine???

I keep getting stuck on the receiver install at a point where it attempts to check the switch set up and im wondering if it’s becUse I don’t have the correct LNB.

 

[907TECH]

Hard to say, but it looks like you have not accounted for the dish offset angle. Do you have a side photo? In the upside down configuration, the dish should point substantially above the horizon.

 

[pattykay]

Thank you for the input! To pick your brain a little more do I need to hit atleast 119 and 119 or can I only acquire 119 and be fine???

It depends on which channels you are trying to receive. It looks like the 119 satellite has quite a few spotbeams for Alaska, so that may be the main satellite you need. Here are the lists of channels by transponder at each satellite location (110 and 119):

DISH Network Channels by Transponder (Unofficial Listing)

DISH Network Channels by Transponder (Unofficial Listing)

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I keep getting stuck on the receiver install at a point where it attempts to check the switch set up and im wondering if it’s becUse I don’t have the correct LNB.

That is very possible. With the correct LNB, the Check Switch should at least recognize the LNB.

 

[Gdsmith07]

Give me a few minutes and I can’t definitely get a side photo of the entirety of the dish set up. I couldn’t seem to get low enough in the correct right size up configuration.

 

[Gdsmith07]

It depends on which channels you are trying to receive. It looks like the 119 satellite has quite a few spotbeams for Alaska, so that may be the main satellite you need. Here are the lists of channels by transponder at each satellite location (110 and 119):
That is very possible. With the correct LNB, the Check Switch should at least recognize the LNB.

What was odd was every so often I was getting pst the “check switch” section to the signal strength portion but not every time. Almost as if something was disconnected or not run properly. Which is why I ran new cables but even since my running of new cables I haven’t been able get past the check switch portion.

the signal finder I hooked up to the LNB to the receiver and dish was also pulsating dunno what that means. It was a cheaper analog meter with a toner as well.

 

[907TECH]

Give me a few minutes and I can’t definitely get a side photo of the entirety of the dish set up. I couldn’t seem to get low enough in the correct right size up configuration.

That is normal. Mounts will not adjust to the proper angle in Northern Alaska. I spent years doing field work for Alascom in northern Alaska on C band stuff and ran Dish and DirecTV for many years living in Fairbanks. Now live near Anchorage and use DirecTV. Do not quote me but the offset angle is around 17 degrees, so take the expected elevation above the horizon and add offset angle to get in the ball park.

 

[Gdsmith07]

Is this what you’re looking for as a side profile of the dish ?

 

[907TECH]

You are WAY WAY off there. Probably 34 degrees low.

 

[Gdsmith07]

That is normal. Mounts will not adjust to the proper angle in Northern Alaska. I spent years doing field work for Alascom in northern Alaska on C band stuff and ran Dish and DirecTV for many years living in Fairbanks. Now live near Anchorage and use DirecTV. Do not quote me but the offset angle is around 17 degrees, so take the expected elevation above the horizon and add offset angle to get in the ball park.

 

[Gdsmith07]

So I be looking for a degree in the 25° Range based on a 17 degree offset ?

 

[Gdsmith07]

You are WAY WAY off there. Probably 34 degrees low.

Gotta go way up gotcha, I did some perusing of the village and it appeared that most of the residents dishes were pointed almost at what looked like directly the ground.

I’ll adjust the dish to see if I can’t be gin to get a signal.

would having zero signal at all
Not allow me to get past the check switch stage of the setup process?

 

[907TECH]

Verify the offset angle of the dish and add the expected sat elevation to that number, yes. You have zero signal of course, others on the forum will know more about the Dish signal acquisition/check switch than I.

 

[Gdsmith07]

Okay I’ll give it a whirl and see what i get. Hopefully I can get something going for thanksgiving football.

 

[Gdsmith07]

Ill
Keep this continued open, I appreciate all the help
And will be updating.

 

[907TECH]

I hope this simple adjustment was not the cause of a 2 year delay lol...