How many audio PIDS on this transponder?

[Mr Tony]

Need some help guys due to "receiver limitation" on the Pansat and Geosat

The Dial Global mux on AMC8
SatelliteGuys.US_TheList - 139.0°W AMC 8 C

has a bunch of different audio PIDS. The one I like is the classic country one. Its the same feed as a local AM station plays but the station is pretty much daytime only (they drop to like 12 watts at night and I'm 25 miles away so at night and when semi bad weather is around it doesnt come in...plus they pre-empt it with Twins games)

Today I noticed they moved the PIDS around and mine isnt there anymore (It use to be language 20). I know the pid was 1208 so I manually added it. Here is where I need some help probably from the PC guys.

How many different PIDS are there on that TP and what are they? I dont need to know the music type (I can do that on my own) but the Geosat only will show 4 audio PIDs and the Pansat can do 20. I remember my old Craptiveworks did like 30 or 32.

AMC8
4033
V
7957

 

[ACRadio]

Need some help guys due to "receiver limitation" on the Pansat and Geosat

The Dial Global mux on AMC8
SatelliteGuys.US_TheList - 139.0°W AMC 8 C

has a bunch of different audio PIDS. The one I like is the classic country one. Its the same feed as a local AM station plays but the station is pretty much daytime only (they drop to like 12 watts at night and I'm 25 miles away so at night and when semi bad weather is around it doesnt come in...plus they pre-empt it with Twins games)

Today I noticed they moved the PIDS around and mine isnt there anymore (It use to be language 20). I know the pid was 1208 so I manually added it. Here is where I need some help probably from the PC guys.

How many different PIDS are there on that TP and what are they? I dont need to know the music type (I can do that on my own) but the Geosat only will show 4 audio PIDs and the Pansat can do 20. I remember my old Craptiveworks did like 30 or 32.

AMC8
4033
V
7957

1101 through 1114
1120
1201 through 1218
1220
1221
1223 through 1229

looks like 42 PIDS...

 

[Mr Tony]

cool

Guess I'll have to load most of those into the receiver and see what they are

Thanks!

 

[brentb636]

Tony,
There are over 50 PID's on this tp. Looks like just about 50 with substantial audio, but the screen won't hold still for me to count them. PID ID's 44D-45A , 460, 4B1-4CD, all HEX , of course, seem to have substantial audio bit rates.

[edit]
AC, doesn't surprise me that you beat me to it !

 

[ACRadio]

No problem...glad to help

It looks like 1120 has a lower bandwidth than the rest...it's only running about 42k so I'm sure it isn't being used for music...

I just checked it and it's silent...

Edit...it looks like the 1100's are used for talk and the 1200's are used for music...
Edit again...1110 is the Sirius Nascar Radio show and 1109 is used for Motor Racing Network...

 

[Mikhel]

Need some help guys due to "receiver limitation" on the Pansat and Geosat

The Dial Global mux on AMC8
SatelliteGuys.US_TheList - 139.0°W AMC 8 C

has a bunch of different audio PIDS. The one I like is the classic country one. Its the same feed as a local AM station plays but the station is pretty much daytime only (they drop to like 12 watts at night and I'm 25 miles away so at night and when semi bad weather is around it doesnt come in...plus they pre-empt it with Twins games)

Today I noticed they moved the PIDS around and mine isnt there anymore (It use to be language 20). I know the pid was 1208 so I manually added it. Here is where I need some help probably from the PC guys.

How many different PIDS are there on that TP and what are they? I dont need to know the music type (I can do that on my own) but the Geosat only will show 4 audio PIDs and the Pansat can do 20. I remember my old Craptiveworks did like 30 or 32.

AMC8
4033
V
7957

Some time ago at Rick's i posted a list of the PIDs with info regarding what was each PID, i'll see if i can find it and post it, if not i'll see if i can get all of those again and post an updated list =).

M.

 

[Mr Tony]

no biggie. ACRadio posted the pids. I'll go through them this weekend

What's funny is a fair amount of these feeds are on radio stations near the cabin...about 2 1/2 hours north of Minneapolis so the only difference is commercials

 

[Mikhel]

Due to the same issues you adressed in the first post (my Pansats couldn't get all the PIDs and neither the Fortec/Viewsat and CW's... well at least not all of them with the CW's), so i added one by one on (filling in all the possible blanks) ChannelMaster and checked which ones had audio, which didn't, i took note of that, then i added one by one in a list, so each APID was paired with their own invented VPID, so i could name each station... it took me a weekend hehehehe.

Those listed are the ones that had audio, there were more audio channels intercalated but were silent at the time.

4032 V, SR 7957

At 10:45pm Pacific Time (VPID 8191 / PCR 1201 / TXT PID 8191)

Audio 06, APID 1106 Midnight Radio Network
Audio 07, APID 1107 Info about Dial Global Radio Network
Audio 09, APID 1109 MRN / Midnight Trucking?

All the following had music:

Audio 13, APID 1201 Modern Music
Audio 14, APID 1202 Classic Rock (were playing Rolling Stones songs... my favourites =D)
Audio 15, APID 1203 Classic Hits
Audio 16, APID 1204
Audio 17, APID 1205 Country
Audio 18, APID 1206
Audio 19, APID 1207
Audio 20, APID 1208
Audio 22, APID 1210
Audio 23, APID 1211
Audio 24, APID 1212 Clock-like sound (a beep every second)
Audio 25, APID 1213
Audio 26, APID 1214
Audio 28, APID 1216
Audio 29, APID 1217 Nugent Time Extra
Audio 30, APID 1218

Info gathered by other peeps, i think they won't mind by the copy/paste:

1201 Sam FM
1202 Rock Classics
1203 Classic Hits
1204 True Country
1205 CD Country
1206 Adult Contemporary
1207 Hot Adult Contemporary
1208 Classic Hit Country
1209 Cooper Lawrence
1210 Good Time Oldies
1211 US Country
1212 AP News
1213 Nudge
1214 Lia
1215 Rockline
1216 Greg Kihn
1217 Young and Verna
1218 Adult Standards
1219 Mainstream Country
1220 Kool Gold
1221 Bright Adult Contemporary
1222 Adult Rock and Roll
1223 Hot Country
1224 Christmas
1225 Jack FM
1227 Hits Now
1228 Whitney Allen

During weekdays:
1101 - (101 Mono) Neal Boortz
1102 - (102 Mono) Clark Howard / Ed Schultz Replays
1103 - (103 Mono) Michael Smerconish (6am Eastern show) / Stephanie Miller / Thom Hartmann / Ed Schultz Replays
1104 - (104 Mono) Bill Press / Ed Schultz (live) / Todd Schnitt / Leslie Marshall
1105 - (105 Mono) Warren Ballantine / Al Sharpton
1106 - (106 Mono) Midnight Radio / Thom Hartmann (Replays)
1107 - (107 Mono) Michael Smerconish (Live Noon Eastern show)
1209 - (209 Stereo) Bob & Sheri

The previously listed 1216 (216 Stereo) for Greg Kihn also has the "Big Boy Radio Show" and 1215 (215 Stereo) has "Music City Saturday Nites" on... get this, Saturday Nights (8p eastern i think)

1109 and 1110 are used for sports, not sure if MRN is on Dial Global's satellite anymore, they switched to them and may have switched back to Citadel... i'll figure it out and post it.

I hope it's of any use .

Cheers!

Mike

 

[emuman100]

I think this will help. They use Wegener Unity audio receivers which require authorization, but I really don't know what for, as everything is encrypted. If you are a radio station that needs programming, you can get it via Dial Global. I'd like to see what the stream looks like in TSReader.

 

[Mr Tony]

that TP is not encrypted. As I noted above I listen to the classic country one all the time
pid 1208 (208 on your list)