If Directv could improve your experince and keep you for life what would do it?

[Magic Static]

<div class="bbWrapper">If DTV builds a tuner for my HTPC I may actually pay for TV again <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> But I know that will never happen.</div>

 

[Jimbo]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="TheTechGuru" data-source="post: 3396750" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/xen/goto/post?id=3396750" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-3396750">TheTechGuru said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Idea, Stop charging HD Access and instead charge the SD users a &quot;Legacy Equipment Fee&quot;. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-p" title="Stick Out Tongue :-p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":-p" /><br /> <br /> They need incentive to upgrade, charging for HD Access is a incentive NOT to upgrade, if you charge more for legacy SD then there would be a incentive to upgrade. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>What they need to do is to Bite the Bullet, send out everyone with SD recvrs, a HD recvr and make the change.... however that would cost the company plenty, btw, also do away with the HD fee at the same time, otherwise the SD people would leave in droves when thier bill went up 10 dollars p/m .. and I dont blame the subs if they did leave.<br /> <br /> Another thing to look at ... what age demographics are those with only SD at this point ?<br /> Are they older people on fixed incomes or others that just haven&#039;t changed ...<br /> <br /> Also if they sent HD boxes to all subs that have HD already and happen to have a SD one in spare rooms, that would amount to a smaller portion of the total of SD boxes.<br /> <br /> Again, this would cost the company plenty, BUT, If they did this, other companies may follow ...<br /> <br /> I know this will not happen, but if they really want to make a statement and Headlines on the Positive side of things .....</div>

 

[TheTechGuru]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Jimbo" data-source="post: 3396773" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/xen/goto/post?id=3396773" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-3396773">Jimbo said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> What they need to do is to Bite the Bullet, send out everyone with SD recvrs, a HD recvr and make the change.... however that would cost the company plenty, btw, also do away with the HD fee at the same time, otherwise the SD people would leave in droves when thier bill went up 10 dollars p/m .. and I dont blame the subs if they did leave.<br /> <br /> Another thing to look at ... what age demographics are those with only SD at this point ?<br /> Are they older people on fixed incomes or others that just haven&#039;t changed ...<br /> <br /> Also if they sent HD boxes to all subs that have HD already and happen to have a SD one in spare rooms, that would amount to a smaller portion of the total of SD boxes.<br /> <br /> Again, this would cost the company plenty, BUT, If they did this, other companies may follow ...<br /> <br /> I know this will not happen, but if they really want to make a statement and Headlines on the Positive side of things ..... </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <br /> Well I was at a restaurant not too long ago that had a huge HDTV being fed by a SD DirecTV receiver, looked awful. I guess some people are just plain stupid. <br /> <br /> I think providers should impliment a &quot;Customer Experience&quot; policy, if the installer see&#039;s they have a HDTV they need to be required to get a HD receiver for it.</div>

 

[kovach]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="madmadworld" data-source="post: 3394247" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/xen/goto/post?id=3394247" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-3394247">madmadworld said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> just better PQ <br /> once one has seen real HD there&#039;s no going back, you just feel cheated.<br /> it&#039;s like a playboy mag to a real woman no comparison. <img src="/xen/smiles/second.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":second" title="Second :second" data-shortname=":second" />: </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Isn&#039;t DirecTV about the only provider not using some sort of compression?? I don&#039;t know how they&#039;d produce a better quality picture without the provider providing a better quality picture.</div>

 

[kovach]

<div class="bbWrapper">I&#039;d like the AM21 to scan to pick up all locals rather than just the ones in their database. Or better yet an antenna input into the receiver itself to do so.</div>

 

[kovach]

<div class="bbWrapper">And an HD only package.</div>

 

[madmadworld]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="kovach" data-source="post: 3397629" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/xen/goto/post?id=3397629" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-3397629">kovach said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Isn&#039;t DirecTV about the only provider not using some sort of compression?? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>they are compressing a lot. eye ball test 40-50&amp; loss at least.<br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="kovach" data-source="post: 3397629" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/xen/goto/post?id=3397629" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-3397629">kovach said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I don&#039;t know how they&#039;d produce a better quality picture without the provider providing a better quality picture. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>got a antenna working for your locals ? <br /> even that picture the best most people can receive is compromised a bit, but much better than any of the big to home providers. if one does not have a antenna your not enjoying your HD TV as much as one can.</div>

 

[tigerfan33]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="madmadworld" data-source="post: 3397640" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/xen/goto/post?id=3397640" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-3397640">madmadworld said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> they are compressing a lot. eye ball test 40-50&amp; loss at least. got a antenna working for your locals ? even that picture the best most people can receive is compromised a bit, but much better than any of the big to home providers. if one does not have a antenna your not enjoying your HD TV as much as one can. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> True. My locals are by far the worse pq hd I have. Very soft. I&#039;m too far away for antenna. On the plus side I think other channels such as ESPN hd has improved dramatically over the past few years.</div>

 

[Kb Cool]

<div class="bbWrapper">I wonder how much the &quot;ultra HD&quot; fee will be? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></div>

 

[Jimbo]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="kovach" data-source="post: 3397629" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/xen/goto/post?id=3397629" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-3397629">kovach said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Isn&#039;t DirecTV about the only provider not using some sort of compression?? I don&#039;t know how they&#039;d produce a better quality picture without the provider providing a better quality picture. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <br /> Every provider uses compression, it varies what type, but they all use it or a few channels would eat up all the allotted bandwidth.<br /> <br /> Your OTA channels should look best ... however in many instances, the provider has done a very nice job and doesn&#039;t look much different.<br /> Better encoders do a better job, so picture quality continues to improve as long as technology keeps improving.</div>

 

[kovach]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="madmadworld" data-source="post: 3397640" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/xen/goto/post?id=3397640" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-3397640">madmadworld said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> they are compressing a lot. eye ball test 40-50&amp; loss at least.<br /> <br /> got a antenna working for your locals ? <br /> even that picture the best most people can receive is compromised a bit, but much better than any of the big to home providers. if one does not have a antenna your not enjoying your HD TV as much as one can. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Ok, thanks for setting me straight, I don&#039;t know why I was under the impression they were not using any compression. I must&#039;ve been confused with something else...pixels per line perhaps...wasn&#039;t Dish Network accused of lowering bandwidth by compressing/limiting these somehow?? I just remember reading some studies years ago proving DirecTV had the best HD picture in the business among the major providers but can&#039;t remember the details as to how they proved that.</div>

 

[madmadworld]

<div class="bbWrapper">they are a touch better than Dish. have not kept up but true Fiber was to be the best maybe someone lucky enough to get it can chime in and let us know if it lived up to the hype..<br /> <br /> what can be seen with your own private dish(see signature below) have mind blowing PQ.</div>

 

[Kb Cool]

<div class="bbWrapper">I wonder if google will offer Ultra HD? It should have enough bandwidth !<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /><br /> <a href="https://fiber.google.com/about/" target="_blank" class="link link--external link--favicon link--favicon--before" style="background-image:url('https://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=fiber.google.com');" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">https://fiber.google.com/about/</a></div>

 

[TheTechGuru]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Jimbo" data-source="post: 3398108" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/xen/goto/post?id=3398108" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-3398108">Jimbo said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Your OTA channels should look best ... however in many instances, the provider has done a very nice job and doesn&#039;t look much different.<br /> Better encoders do a better job, so picture quality continues to improve as long as technology keeps improving. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> OTA will always look better because it is a 2nd generation encoding while DirecTV&#039;s feed of the OTA channels are a 3rd generation encoding. The 1st generation encodings of OTA networks one will have to look to C-Band satellite to get them.</div>

 

[Jimbo]

<div class="bbWrapper">Correct, the OTA will always look best.<br /> <br /> However, that doesn&#039;t mean that locals thru a provider has to look lousy.</div>

 

[madmadworld]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Kb Cool" data-source="post: 3399541" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/xen/goto/post?id=3399541" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-3399541">Kb Cool said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I wonder if google will offer Ultra HD? It should have enough bandwidth !<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /><br /> <a href="https://fiber.google.com/about/" target="_blank" class="link link--external link--favicon link--favicon--before" style="background-image:url('https://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=fiber.google.com');" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">https://fiber.google.com/about/</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>this is worth lusting for</div>

 

[Jimbo]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Kb Cool" data-source="post: 3399541" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/xen/goto/post?id=3399541" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-3399541">Kb Cool said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I wonder if google will offer Ultra HD? It should have enough bandwidth !<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /><br /> <a href="https://fiber.google.com/about/" target="_blank" class="link link--external link--favicon link--favicon--before" style="background-image:url('https://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=fiber.google.com');" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">https://fiber.google.com/about/</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="madmadworld" data-source="post: 3399802" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/xen/goto/post?id=3399802" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-3399802">madmadworld said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> this is worth lusting for </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Not me ...<br /> <br /> I hope to NEVER have to pay $70 p/m JUST for Internet.</div>

 

[madmadworld]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Jimbo" data-source="post: 3402545" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/xen/goto/post?id=3402545" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-3402545">Jimbo said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Not me ...<br /> <br /> I hope to NEVER have to pay $70 p/m JUST for Internet. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>or just free<br /> <a href="https://fiber.google.com/cities/provo/plans/" target="_blank" class="link link--external link--favicon link--favicon--before" style="background-image:url('https://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=fiber.google.com');" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">https://fiber.google.com/cities/provo/plans/</a></div>

 

[Kb Cool]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="madmadworld" data-source="post: 3402567" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/xen/goto/post?id=3402567" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-3402567">madmadworld said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> or just free<br /> <a href="https://fiber.google.com/cities/provo/plans/" target="_blank" class="link link--external link--favicon link--favicon--before" style="background-image:url('https://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=fiber.google.com');" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">https://fiber.google.com/cities/provo/plans/</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <br /> Yeah, $30 for 7 yrs is a steal! The gigabit and tv package for $120 isn&#039;t bad either. It looks like additional boxes are leased for $5 or bought outright for $120. I wonder if they are all DVR capable using the cloud as storage instead of having physical hard drives?</div>

 

[Kb Cool]

<div class="bbWrapper">After looking at the link more. I guess a 2tb storage box is included in the $120 package!<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></div>