Is This a Valid LNB Configuration for Two Hopper 3?

[gpflepsen]

Getting two H3s on one Western Arc dish installed but came up short missing a DP or DPP LNB to feed a DPH 42 switch. I'm waiting a few days to get a DPP WA LNB to continue the installation. What got me here was having to abandon the EA dish for a WA and only having a DHP hybrid LNB for 110-119.

I only have two RG6 coax routed to the equipment room from the WA satellite. A 3rd line would involve drilling another hole through the exterior wall, which I'd rather not do.

My question is- what happens if a DPP LNB is connected to a DPH 42 switch with only the 110 and 119 feeds and then the check switch is ran from the receivers? Will the H3s error out and not complete the test and not tune the connected satellites? Or, would the H3s complete the switch test and just report bad connections for 129, then function OK. The current DHP hybrid LNB only gets 110 and 119 so there is no programming coming from 129.

If anyone is wondering, the setup is pretty much what has been discussed here multiple times with a Hybrid Duo Hub.

 

[charlesrshell]

Setup in the pic is what I have. The DPH42 switch will work with the old type and hybrid LNBs

 

[gpflepsen]

why add the 129 that's been retired

There's a non-hybrid WA 110-119 only LNB? I'm all ears.

This brings the question of Dish moving to Hybrid LNBs and not doing their work with DPP or DP equipment any more. This could be a major driver of them resisting multiple H3 installations and streamlining equipment requirements with 16 or less tuners.

How would two H3 installations look IF there were no DPP LNBs available? Can two independent hybrid LNBs (two dishes) feed two solo hubs (or the duo hub) and create one MoCa network? Would two Hopper 3s function to share content on one network with the Joey(s)?

 

[Bobby]

And you don't need 129, it doesn't exist anymore.

 

[gpflepsen]

Setup in the pic is what I have. The DPH42 switch will work with the old type and hybrid LNBs

Are you sure hybrid LNBs work with the Hybrid 42 switch? Have you proved this or have 1st hand info it works? All the DPH 42 documentation I've seen says they are not compatible.

 

[gpflepsen]

And you don't need 129, it doesn't exist anymore.

Which WA LNB without 129 works with the two H3 setup?

 

[John2021]

Which WA LNB without 129 works with the two H3 setup?

what they gave us.. good luck trying to get it as it's for new installs only right now... hopefully they trickle down to places like amazon solid signal soon

 

[John2021]

Which WA LNB without 129 works with the two H3 setup?

and then one of these with two holland splitters on the end.. cool setup since it installs like a swm setup

 

[charlesrshell]

Are you sure hybrid LNBs work with the Hybrid 42 switch? Have you proved this or have 1st hand info it works? All the DPH 42 documentation I've seen says they are not compatible.

Yes, I am sure. I had my dish replaced recently. The installer installed the old style Western Arc 1000.2 with three hybrid LNBs. I was shocked it worked.

 

[gpflepsen]

Yes, I am sure. I had my dish replaced recently. The installer installed the old style Western Arc 1000.2 with three hybrid LNBs. I was shocked it worked.

So you're saying your LNB is the old DP or DPP? And, it has the 129 eye just along for the ride? Is the third coax connected to the 42 switch?

 

[gpflepsen]

View attachment 187797and then one of these with two holland splitters on the end.. cool setup since it installs like a swm setup

How do you have two H3s running off your LNBs (a WA hybrid?) and one Hybrid Solo Hub?

 

[charlesrshell]

So you're saying your LNB is the old DP or DPP? And, it has the 129 eye just along for the ride? Is the third coax connected to the 42 switch?

LNBs are hybrid. My old dish had the old DP LNBs. Yep, 129 is along for the ride sticking out there like a sore thumb, not connected to the switch or dish. I would do anything the get the new two LNB style Western Arc dish. Here is pic with just 110 and 119 connected to my DPH42 switch.

 

[charlesrshell]

How do you have two H3s running off your LNBs (a WA hybrid?) and one Hybrid Solo Hub?

I have a DUO Hub. Both my H3s can see each other in the drop down menu.

 

[John2021]

How do you have two H3s running off your LNBs (a WA hybrid?) and one Hybrid Solo Hub?

we only have one hopper 3...

 

[charlesrshell]

How do you have two H3s running off your LNBs (a WA hybrid?) and one Hybrid Solo Hub?

Here is the thread about my replacement dish install. Bottom line is the DPH42 switch will work with the old style and hybrid LNBs.

Thread 'Dish Change Question'

Apr 15, 2025

I may change my wall mount dish due to storm damage. Presently I have a 1000+ western arc with LNBs 119, 110, 129, and 118.7 all connected to a DPH42 switch then two Hopper 3s. If I change the dish, will Dish use a 1000.2 or 1000.4 dish? I plan on using my two Hopper 3s.

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[gpflepsen]

we only have one hopper 3...

That kind of REALLY changes things as they apply to my configuration, as in they don't. My old configuration is pretty much what you now have. I'm asking about getting 32 independent tuners from two Hopper 3s operating as Charles does. The range of available equipment and their (in)compatabilities and similar nomenclature leave a lot of room for confusion in both trying to communicate for humans and equipment.

 

[gpflepsen]

LNBs are hybrid. My old dish had the old DP LNBs. Yep, 129 is along for the ride sticking out there like a sore thumb, not connected to the switch or dish. I would do anything the get the new two LNB style Western Arc dish. Here is pic with just 110 and 119 connected to my DPH42 switch.

Thanks, this answers my question, that if the 129 is not connected to the DPH 42 switch then the switch test will still complete successfully. I've got the Duo Hub and everything sees everything, I just can't feed the 2nd H3 the LNB port 2 output, yet.

I'll know by next Monday night if I have success with the equipment I'll have. I'm confident it'll work now.

 

[charlesrshell]

Thanks, this answers my question, that if the 129 is not connected to the DPH 42 switch then the switch test will still complete successfully. I've got the Duo Hub and everything sees everything, I just can't feed the 2nd H3 the LNB port 2 output, yet.

I'll know by next Monday night if I have success with the equipment I'll have. I'm confident it'll work now.

Welcome and good luck

 

[John2021]

That kind of REALLY changes things as they apply to my configuration, as in they don't. My old configuration is pretty much what you now have. I'm asking about getting 32 independent tuners from two Hopper 3s operating as Charles does. The range of available equipment and their (in)compatabilities and similar nomenclature leave a lot of room for confusion in both trying to communicate for humans and equipment.

maybe you miss understood our config somewhere... i wanted more than one hopper 3's more like 7 hoppers and i wanted to convert them into one big media server ... but we had our cheerios pissed in and was told it would not work

 

[gpflepsen]

And you don't need 129, it doesn't exist anymore.

That's why it wouldn't be connected, because there's no functional use for it. Unless the switch check expects to see the 129 LNB and causes an error because it's not there. Which it sounds like it won't matter that 129 is not connected, check switch will be .