L.A. Locals

[shodobe]

Do all of the HD locals out of Los Angeles come Sat and transponder? If so then how come I can get channels 2,4,5 and 11 with no problems but can not get channels 9 and 13? Since I realy don't live in these areas but I do get them anyway it is strange that last year I got the two and not the others. Thanks

 

[raoul5788]

Do all of the HD locals out of Los Angeles come Sat and transponder? If so then how come I can get channels 2,4,5 and 11 with no problems but can not get channels 9 and 13? Since I realy don't live in these areas but I do get them anyway it is strange that last year I got the two and not the others. Thanks

Some of the LA locals are on CONUS for dns usage. The rest are on spot beams.

 

[shodobe]

Thanks, but which ones are on spotbeams? Are all of the HD locals on the same sat and trans or are they on different ones? I pick up the ones mentioned 500 miles away and they are HD. The other two, KCAL and KCOP I don't get but I did last year. The others I didn't get at all. Strange twist. So, not talking SD channels, are all of HD locals off the same or not?

 

[Mr Tony]

Big 4 nets are on CONUS....rest spotbeam

 

[Mr Tony]

here is the list of both SD & HD locals for LA

callsign/channel/transponder/satellite
KCBS 2 7 D11 @99W
KCBS 2 30 D9S @101W
KNBC 4 1 D11 @99W
KNBC 4 2 D9S @101W
KTLA 5 21 D10 or D12 @103W
KTLA 5 28 D4S or D9S @101W
KABC 7 3 D11 @99W
KABC 7 2 D9S @101W
KCAL 9 19 D10 or D12 @103W
KCAL 9 28 D4S or D9S @101W
KTTV 11 14 D11 @99W
KTTV 11 2 D9S @101W
KCOP 13 19 D10 or D12 @103W
KCOP 13 28 D4S or D9S @101W
KSCI 18 28 D4S or D9S @101W
KBBC 20 28 D4S or D9S @101W
KWHY 22 28 D4S or D9S @101W
KVCR 24 28 D4S or D9S @101W
KCET 28 19 D10 or D12 @103W
KCET 28 28 D4S or D9S @101W
KPXN 30 7 D8 @101W
KVMD 31 18 D4S or D9S @101W
KMEX 34 19 D10 or D12 @103W
KMEX 34 28 D4S or D9S @101W
KXLA 44 28 D4S or D9S @101W
KFTR 46 28 D4S or D9S @101W
KOCE 50 19 D10 or D12 @103W
KOCE 50 28 D4S or D9S @101W
KVEA 52 28 D4S or D9S @101W
KAZA 54 18 D4S or D9S @101W
KDOC 56 18 D4S or D9S @101W
KJLA 57 18 D4S or D9S @101W
KLCS2 58 19 D10 or D12 @103W
KLCS 58 18 D4S or D9S @101W
KRCA 62 18 D4S or D9S @101W
KBEH 63 18 D4S or D9S @101W
KHIZ 64 28 D4S or D9S @101W

The HD ones on 99W are conus, the ones on 103W are spotbeamed. 101 is a spotbeam too (if you see the satellite name it says D4S or D9S which means spotbeam)

 

[shodobe]

thanks Iceberg. This helps alot. Just funny how last year I could pick up the 103 bird with no problem and couldn't get the 101. This year it is reversed and I have tried to tweak my sat dish but can't find 103. Thanks anyway

 

[shodobe]

I was looking at the list Iceberg gave me and was surprised to see that KTLA is on D10 as well as as KCOP and KCOP but on a different transponder, 21 vs 19 for the other two. If I am looking at 103 for HD and can get KTLA but not the other two does this make a diffrence because of the 19 vs 21 transponder? It would seem if I can get 103 then I should be able to get all of the transponders. Please enlighten me and show me the way. Thanks

 

[charper1]

likely because of spotbeam size differences if I had a guess; maybe that are not exactly the same

 

[shodobe]

Is 19 spotbeam? Did they tighten up the beam over last year? This will stop me from going nuts over why last year no problem and this year a problem. Thanks

 

[Mr Tony]

from the list I have all are on spotbeam except for the Big 4.

If you look at the attached pic right column it shows the sat
99C means 99W conus
103s means 103W spotbeam
101 shows the 101 satellite but to the left the satellite says "D4s" or "D9s" which means the spotbeam sat

 

[shodobe]

Thanks Iceberg. I now know these two stations are on spotbeam and they probably did something to tighten up the beam. Last year I could pull these in 500 miles from LA with no problems. This year, nada!

 

[raoul5788]

500 miles? Wow, that's a lot further than I thought any spot beams reached. Where were you when you got them that far away?