Microsoft sues Motorola (for Android)

[JAG72]

This is definitely a "me-too" attempt on Samsung part. They have a winner on their hands in the form of the Galaxy S.
Just strip it off its cell capabilities and call it a player. With apps support. Just what Apple did.

The iPod Touch was out prior to the iPhone. Apple threw a phone into the iPod Touch.

 

[diogen]

From Wikipedia:

It [iPhone] was announced on January 9, 2007[10] after months of rumors and speculation.[11] It was introduced in the United States on June 29, 2007

The product [iPod Touch] was launched on September 5, 2007, at an event called The Beat Goes On.

Hence, iPhone is older than iPod Touch. Just was Samsung is doing...

Diogen.

 

[diogen]

And here it comes...
Samsung Galaxy Player up for pre-order at Amazon UK, £150 buys 8GB worth of Android Market apps -- Engadget

Not only is Apple snubbed by making it white, so is the US market, Apple's favorite playground.

I don't think you could make a player looking more alike than the iPod Touch...

Diogen.

 

[diogen]

After licensing IV patents, Samsung decided to do a cross-licensing pact with IBM
Ibm and samsung announce a cross-licensing pact- The Inquirer

IBM is known to have the most number of patents issued annually for many years.
I think suing them (or anybody with a license to the portfolio) would be futile: by the time the issue is resolved it will be irrelevant.

Smart move...

Diogen.

 

[diogen]

The 4" and 5" Samsung clones of iPod Touch (i.e. WiFi only Galaxy S) are about to arrive
Samsung Galaxy Player 4 and 5 to arrive this spring in the US -- Engadget

The 4" also a VoIP phone with Skype pre-installed.
Gingerbread upgradeable and full Market access (Google must have made an exception for Samsung with that).

Diogen.

 

[diogen]

...next in line with legal problems with Microsoft: Barnes & Noble.
Microsoft sues Barnes & Noble over patent infringement

According to the company, Barnes & Noble Android e-readers the Nook and Nook Color infringe on patents regarding UI,
as well as browsing and downloading. Microsoft also claims that Foxconn and Inventec are guilty of violating its various patents.
.....
According to Microsoft’s corporate VP and deputy general counsel Horacio Gutierrez, “the Android platform infringes a number of
Microsoft’s patents, and companies manufacturing and shipping Android devices must respect our intellectual property right.”

Diogen.

 

[diogen]

Nathan Myhrvold isn't a poor guy, but his IV enterprise (some call it a patent troll) is getting very popular.
First, Samsung and HTC licensed its patent portfolio. Now RIM joined the crowd.
RIM strikes licensing deal with Intellectual Ventures for 30,000 IP assets -- Engadget

It looks like RIM is trying to play it safe while getting ready to introduce a tablet capable of running Android apps.
And it's probably good insurance to keep Apple's legal dogs at home. But that you never know...

Diogen.

 

[diogen]

Next: Nortel patents
Apple, Google, RIM go shopping for Nortel patents

It is really nice to see Google getting into bidding for Nortel patents
Google bids $900 million for Nortel patent portfolio, will use it as shield against patent trolls -- Engadget

It looks like they plan to do it just to protect themselves (and most of the Android/Chrome/WebM users)
from the likes of Apple, Microsoft, Oracle, MP Ass. of America, etc.

Diogen.

 

[diogen]

Apple's presence is understandable.
Oracle probably wants to make sure to never end up on the receiving end of a paten lawsuit from MS.
But what is EMC doing here?
Could this have something to do with VMWare that EMC made a killing on by first acquiring and then spinning off?
They are still the biggest shareholder if memory serves.

This acquisition seems still pending
OSI fears for Linux if Novell patents land with Apple, Oracle ? Channel Register

It is really interesting to watch how fast the business landscape changes.
Google's Android - and by association the whole open source movement - is considered a threat enough
to bring together the arch enemies of the last few decades: Apple, Microsoft, Oracle.

The irony: biggest self-proclaimed innovators are actively pursuing patent troll roles...

Diogen.

 

[diogen]

And so it DID happen: Apple sues Samsung for copying the iPhone and iPad
Apple sues Samsung for 'copying' the iPhone and iPad -- Engadget

seeks injunctions against Samsung, damages (both actual and punitive), and a finding that the infringement was willful.
...
it's fun to see the big dogs barking at each other.

This will be interesting to watch...

Diogen.

 

[grydlok]

And so it DID happen: Apple sues Samsung for copying the iPhone and iPad
Apple sues Samsung for 'copying' the iPhone and iPad -- Engadget

This will be interesting to watch...

Diogen.

Yes it will, talking about suing the people that your SoC comes from.

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[diogen]

If you accept the idea of design patents ( I don't) then Apple has a good case with the iPhone.
But iPad? That I don't understand...

An attempt to slow down the #1 competitor, I guess.

Diogen.

EDIT: Galaxy Tab a "copy" of iPad?
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/04/apple-patent-suit/

Galaxy Tab “slavishly copies” Apple’s product design, using a rectangular body with rounded corners, a black border and an array of app icons similar to the iPad’s.

This must be a joke...

 

[grydlok]

If you accept the idea of design patents ( I don't) then Apple has a good case with the iPhone.
But iPad? That I don't understand...

An attempt to slow down the #1 competitor, I guess.

Diogen.

Why sue the guy you buy your parts from and fabs your cpu/gpu?

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[diogen]

Now I believe the rumors about the iPhone5 going to be delayed.
Whatever the reason - Japan earthquake or anything else - Apple got a break in its upgrade cycle.
It is better to file a lawsuit (if so desired) now before the manufacturing of the handsets starts, than later.

Samsung is probably Apple's single most important supplier. But it is known that Apple is trying to have at least two for each part.
Therefore, I think this is just designed as a quick shakeout ending just like Microsoft vs. HTC did.

It sounds risky.
Samsung most likely can make Apple's life harder.
But probably not without making their own even more so...

Diogen.

 

[grydlok]

They where talking delay prior to the earthquakes.
Suing Samsung but paying them at the same time for the A5 chips and NAND. Oh and the ram used in the macbooks

 

[diogen]

Just like the lawsuits against HTC last March and Motorola last October
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/apple-sues-htc-for-infringing-20-iphone-patents/
Apple sues Motorola right back over six patents -- Engadget
this one against Samsung is more of the same at least in the software space: an attempt to stop Android.
Intimidation. Hope that the threat to be sued itself will stop companies jumping on the Android bandwagon.

You can't sue Google since the OS is given away for free (Oracle's Java being in a different category altogether),
but you can sue the ones making profits off of it.

I have a hard time to believe this can work in any significant way, just look at HTC's latest quarter
HTC's market capitalization reaches $33.8b, overshadows Nokia and RIM -- Engadget

Diogen.

 

[diogen]

Samsung most likely can make Apple's life harder.
But probably not without making their own even more so...

Maybe not.
I did not know that Samsung is that big

When Apple's fiscal 2010 ended on September 25, the company had pulled in $65.22bn in revenue...
.....
Samsung's revenues are significantly larger. Its 2010 financial report said that the company's
total income for that fiscal year, ended on December 31, was 154.63 trillion won ($142.33bn).
Various reports have placed Apple's contribution to Samsung's revenue in 2010 at roughly 4 per cent, or $5.69bn.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/04/19/samsung_responds_to_apple_lawsuit/

Diogen.

 

[grydlok]

Maybe not.
I did not know that Samsung is that big

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/04/19/samsung_responds_to_apple_lawsuit/

Diogen.

Samsung is huge

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[diogen]

I hope they find something to answer with...

When talking Samsung and Apple I cannot forget this
CE-Oh no he didn't!: Steve Jobs misquotes Samsung, asks what you're gonna do about it -- Engadget

Surviving cancer seems to have severe side effects affecting the brain function.
And it looks to be contagious in the executive ranks, not a peep from other magicians at Apple...

Diogen.

 

[diogen]

Well, if souring relations between Samsung and Apple start affecting business climate, Amazon might move in...
Amazon tablet hype continues: Android-based, made by Samsung

Diogen.