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Long Hair

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What is the minimal signal Quality to reliably receive the HBO mux
on (G1) 133 Galaxy 15. I have a 7.5 mesh and I'm receiving about
40% quality for HBO and mid 70's for Star's mux. I know the Star's
will work but, what about HBO?
 
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tvropro

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If it's a 922, 40 is really close to the limit of 35. A 920 will work to in the 20's The meters read different. I would do some dish peaking and try to get close to 50 if you can.
 

Inno

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On my 905 40 seems to be about the lowest that will bring in a usable signal.
I'd try to get more signal as that would get pretty annoying if the weather is bad or something changes. It would suck to sub for a year and not be able to get the full use of the channels you've paid for.
 

Long Hair

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On my 905 I have been able to watch some channel's @ 36Q. As far
as peaking the dish this is the first time since I put the dish up in
July 2009 that I can receive a signal or quality on hbo. At one time I
had the star's up in the 80's and still no hbo's I believe the adl-rp3 is
to thank for that. And a bad coax was killing off my channel's on most
satellites tp 18-24.
 

Long Hair

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A ? for TVROpro about skew on 4dtv.To set the polar skew my
setting are 30 and 70. Does this sound right,I thought the shew
had be or = 90 from H to V.
 
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Inno

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A ? for TVROpro about skew on 4dtv.To set the polar skew my
setting are 30 and 70. Does this sound right,I thought the shew
had be or = 90 from H to V.

Your sig says you have a LNBF therefore the skew settings should not matter as long as you have selected LNBF in the menu. Options 6,3,2 and select the type of LNBF you have. My 905 is set to C-Band LNBF and for the sake of argument and because there is nothing on Ku, yours could probably be the same.

Edit, when you push the right arrow button and it shows you the skew and signal strength and quality at the top of the screen mine said H 30 and V 5. Vertical was selected for the channel I was on (a Cinemax) so I ran the skew all the way up to 90 and back down then all the way back down thru the negatives and the signal did not change at all.
 

tvropro

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A ? for TVROpro about skew on 4dtv.To set the polar skew my
setting are 30 and 70. Does this sound right,I thought the shew
had be or = 90 from H to V.

My skew is mostly 85 H -15 V across the arc On G1 it's 90 H and -10 V. Your skew seems too close together. It's possible your skew is working better at those numbers because your dish is getting sidelobes from C3 and C4. A 7.5 footer is not 2 degree compliant.
 

Inno

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My skew is mostly 85 H -15 V across the arc On G1 it's 90 H and -10 V. Your skew seems too close together. It's possible your skew is working better at those numbers because your dish is getting sidelobes from C3 and C4. A 7.5 footer is not 2 degree compliant.


But with an LNBF it shouldn't matter.........am I right about that? :)
 

tvropro

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But with an LNBF it shouldn't matter.........am I right about that? :)

If your running an LNBF there is no mechanical polorotor. You set the V & H by twisting the feed on the dish for maximum then lock it down. It switches polarity by voltage. In weak signal conditions a standard feed, LNB and polorotor can give you the edge, since you can fine tune the polarity better for each satellite.
 

Inno

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Right but my point being that once you have mechanically peaked your LNBF then the skew adjustments on your receiver do absolutely nothing.

So in Longhair's case the numbers he is seeing for skew don't matter and have nothing to do with his problem because he has a LNBF.
 

Long Hair

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Your sig says you have a LNBF therefore the skew settings should not matter as long as you have selected LNBF in the menu.

True my sig has a LNBF as my Back-up,I changed that to
the ADL RP3 C/Ku feed.
 

tvropro

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True my sig has a LNBF as my Back-up,I changed that to
the ADL RP3 C/Ku feed.

The ADL RP3 C/KU is a Corotor clone with scaler rings unlike the RP1 C/KU. The numbers you give on polarity seem odd. You may want to make sure your feed is centered and the F/D and Focal Distance are correct.
 

tvropro

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Right but my point being that once you have mechanically peaked your LNBF then the skew adjustments on your receiver do absolutely nothing.

So in Longhair's case the numbers he is seeing for skew don't matter and have nothing to do with his problem because he has a LNBF.

That would be the case for an LNBF. But the has a regular feedhorn.
 

Inno

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That's what I was missing originally, I was thrown off by what he listed in his sig. It said he had a LNBF. Sorry for confusing matters.
 

Radioguy41

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After all the fine tuning in the world, the best I can get on G1-100 is 51. Every other bird that I have programmed averages between 85 and 99. That tells me G1 is weak.
 

tvropro

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G1 is not weak, HBO is using 7/8 FEC and target their link budget at 12-16 foot dishes with 14.5 ft being the norm. This is why 10 foot or less have problems. I average in the 80's on HBO but have seen it high as 99 Q on my 12 foot. It's a bear even on my 12 foot to squeak every last drop out of HBO. Very very touchy.
 

truckracer

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minimal signal on hbo/max for my 905 is around 39 percent quality.

My 7.5' mesh dish gets those around 70-74 percent. My 10' gets them at 82 percent.
 
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