You keep saying the client is as fast as the genie. But with a HS17 there is no actual Genie. So there is no way to compare speed from the server to the clientAnd I also was referring to the Joey 3. I have no idea why you're talking about with the crappy wire and the wireless, that has nothing to do with the actual speed of the boxes. Yes, the clients are nearly the same speed as the Genies and the Joey 3's are as fast as the Hopper 3's but in my extensive experience overall the Hopper 3/Joey 3 systems are noticeably faster than the Genie/Client systems.