NCAA says that Tressell is NOT "forthright"...

[mccoyrj]

Good point. The ONLY issue I have, like I said before, when it rains it pours and you gotta be careful between reporting and gossiping. Not everything that is reported legit...but damn, EVERYTHING is hitting the fan now. IF all these allegations prove to be true....the NCAA will HAVE TO make an example out of them and go harsher than USC.

You're not suggesting something a' la SMU are you?

 

[salsadancer7]

You're not suggesting something a' la SMU are you?

yep. But again, that is if there is this paper trail with the checks and emails/text. Because then the school deserves it.

 

[mccoyrj]

yep.

That would be devastating for not only the school but the entire conference. I'm not sure the NCAA would go that far again.

 

[salsadancer7]

That would be devastating for not only the school but the entire conference. I'm not sure the NCAA would go that far again.

It would, but if the current/new allegations are true, that would make it WORSE than the USC situation. This would be way beyond tattoo-gate...

 

[Will94]

...the NCAA will HAVE TO make an example out of them and go harsher than USC.

I agree with this, but I don't think that we'll ever see another death penalty case like SMU. Their program has never recovered from it.

 

[cosmo_kramer]

That would be devastating for not only the school but the entire conference. I'm not sure the NCAA would go that far again.

A lack of institutional control.

An institution cannot be expected to control the actions of every individual who is in some way
connected with its athletics program. The deliberate or inadvertent violation of a rule by an
individual who is not in charge of compliance with rules that are violated will not be considered to
be due to a lack of institutional control:
• if adequate compliance measures exist;
• if they are appropriately conveyed to those who need to be aware of them;
• if they are monitored to ensure that such measures are being followed; and
• if, on learning that a violation has occurred, the institution takes swift action.

Whoops....

 

[mccoyrj]

A lack of institutional control.

Whoops....

Still not sure the NCAA will destroy the OSU program as well as sever one of the Big10's limbs by doing away with one of it's most competitive teams. A longer history of severe violations would have to turn up.

Got to say though, I've been surprised every time they've turned something up. tOSU had me believing in their squeaky clean image. So who knows what the heck might happen.

 

[Jimbo]

I hear Texas may be next ....

 

[Derwin0]

Still not sure the NCAA will destroy the OSU program as well as sever one of the Big10's limbs by doing away with one of it's most competitive teams.

They won't destroy it (ala SMU), but with the stuff coming out, I can't see how they can go lighter than they did on USC.

 

[Ramy]

No way they destroy the schools football team.

 

[yaz96]

No way they destroy the schools football team.

If they did that, they might as well destroy the whole Division I football program.

 

[Will94]

I hear Texas may be next ....

As much as I would *love* for that to happen, I don't think that there is much to the story other than a wife with absolutely no common sense.

UT football: McCoy's wife creates stir | Longhorns | a mySA.com blog

"It's tough when there are things that could be handed to you that seem so minor. You know, a dinner, a hunt here or there, a fishing trip. Things like that, that most kids don't even realize are illegal."
"I know (Colt McCoy) was approached quite a bit (by agents), but you know how Colt is, he can just kind of brush it off, and can just kind of move on and not go down that road. But I saw so many of his teammates, who just, maybe they didn't have that same kind of self control just to be able to say, to say no to somebody. I can't. That's not my personality. I don't want to hurt people's feelings."

 

[salsadancer7]

Interesting...

Updated: June 24, 2011, 1:37 PM ET
Ohio St. trustee sees cracks in values

Associated Press

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Ohio State needs to do a lot of "soul-searching" in the wake of the memorablia-for-cash and tattoos football scandal that forced coach Jim Tressel to resign and quarterback Terrelle Pryor to leave school, a university trustee said Friday.

After weeks of silence, the oversight panel for Ohio State -- a school of more than 50,000 students -- is beginning to comment on the memorabilia scandal. It will spend up to six weeks reviewing the athletic department's entire response to the scandal, though members say they do not know of any other NCAA rules violations right now.

"We have a lot to look at in sort of the soul-searching of what is most important in the game of life," trustee Jerry Jurgensen, retired chief executive officer of Nationwide Insurance, said in remarks to the full board on Friday.

"The cracks here weren't really cracks of rules and procedures," he said. "They were cracks in a value system."

Jurgensen, often an independent voice on the board, was quickly contradicted by board chairman Les Wexner, billionaire chairman and founder of Limited Brands and a major donor to the university.

"I don't think we have a lot of soul-searching to do, not at all," Wexner said. "We have a lot of heart-celebrating to do for the good that this university does."

Ohio State Buckeyes trustee: Scandal requires 'soul-searching' - ESPN

 

[mdonnelly]

...
Jurgensen, often an independent voice on the board, was quickly contradicted by board chairman Les Wexner, billionaire chairman and founder of Limited Brands and a major donor to the university.

"I don't think we have a lot of soul-searching to do, not at all," Wexner said. "We have a lot of heart-celebrating to do for the good that this university does."

Ohio State Buckeyes trustee: Scandal requires 'soul-searching' - ESPN

Denial is not just a river in Egypt.

 

[Derwin0]

Denial is not just a river in Egypt.

That river seems to have moved to Ohio.

 

[Hall]

I know the sale of cars to athletes was a topic of concern to many.... looks like it's a non-issue now....

The Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles reported yesterday that there were no dealer paperwork irregularities on 25 vehicle purchases it examined.

The state launched its probe, and OSU announced its plan to investigate, on May 7 after The Dispatch reported that at least eight OSU athletes and 11 of their relatives had bought cars from Jack Maxton Chevrolet and Auto Direct during the past five years.

The BMV investigation found that Maxton Chevrolet and Auto Direct made profits in 24 of the 25 OSU-related used-car sales it examined and accurately reported sales prices to the state, as required by law.

Investigators found no evidence in dealership records that players received deals in exchange for memorabilia or event tickets. The lone car sold below cost was a Maxton vehicle that had been in inventory more than five months, the report said.

Players and family members paid an average of $2,000 over wholesale prices for vehicles at Auto Direct, the report said, with some vehicles selling below suggested retail prices, but not unreasonably so.

In a May 18 letter, James Mitchell, executive director of the Ohio Independent Automobile Dealers' Association, wrote that Jason Goss, owner of Auto Direct, had asked him to examine the OSU-related sales. He wrote that "gross profits were in line with or in excess of the national average."

Goss said he was pleased with the BMV findings that "the allegations made against Auto Direct were proven to be false."

The average markup on vehicles players bought from Maxton was $1,211. The BMV said it found three vehicles had sold below retail prices, with others selling at prices well above average retail.

BMV finds no illegalities in sales to OSU players | BuckeyeXtra

 

[salsadancer7]

Denial is not just a river in Egypt.

That river seems to have moved to Ohio.

Already comment it on this. But obviously, I am not the only ones that see it too....

 

[salsadancer7]

I know the sale of cars to athletes was a topic of concern to many.... looks like it's a non-issue now....



BMV finds no illegalities in sales to OSU players | BuckeyeXtra

Those were the stories going around from a Columbus newspaper, if I am not mistaken. And I am glad they were cleared up.

 

[mccoyrj]

I know the sale of cars to athletes was a topic of concern to many.... looks like it's a non-issue now....



BMV finds no illegalities in sales to OSU players | BuckeyeXtra

Finally some good news. :up

 

[Jimbo]

Finally some good news. :up

This is actually OLD news, about a week or two anyways ....