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Troch77 said:
Well I already have a $2000 printer I'm not buying another one to find out its still buggy.
My land line a tax deduction, so it's not like it cost me anything anyway.
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Um, unless you are in a 100% tax bracket this isn't true at all. The landline is a deduction not a credit! So it is costing you somewhere between 90%-60.4% of the actual bill.
 
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The take-away here is that TV capability doesn't drive programming resolution and that takes a big-ass chunk out of the argument that UHD programming is almost upon us.
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That's pretty much what I said. What the TVs are capable of doesn't dictate what is actually available.

When did HDTVs become widely available or mainstream, e.g. sold at Walmart, Best Buy, etc ? When did TV networks start broadcasting in HD ?
 
lakebum431 said:
Um, unless you are in a 100% tax bracket this isn't true at all. The landline is a deduction not a credit! So it is costing you somewhere between 90%-60.4% of the actual bill.
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It very true because it's a 100% write off.
The amount of money that is made off of that land line a year , every tax deduction helps, it more untaxable income.
I never said it was a credit.
Besides Ooma business is still over $40 per month for 2 lines, and I still would have to pay now an even higher internet charge per month to not bundle my phone service with my internet.

So the whole point is Moot anyway.
Not sure where Ooma cost only $4. Just quoted a price of $19.99 plus addtional $10 for 2nd line.
Then my internet goes from $52.95 to $67.95 if I drop the cable company's phone lines.
 
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Troch77 said:
It very true because it's a 100% write off.
The amount of money that is made off of that land line a year , every tax deduction helps, it more untaxable income.
I never said it was a credit.
Besides Ooma business is still over $40 per month for 2 lines, and I still would have to pay now an even higher internet charge per month to not bundle my phone service with my internet.
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Wrong. I guess you don't understand how taxes work. You are taking a deduction for 100% of the bill. That means that you reduced your net income by that amount. But you don't pay 100% tax on the amount you profit. You pay somewhere between 10%-39.6% in tax on that income (depending on your income tax bracket). Therefore it only saves you that % of the bill. You actually pay the rest. Let's try an example. Let's say your profit for the year is $50,000 before you take into consideration this bill. Assuming you are a sole proprietor that would put you in the 25% tax bracket. Let's say that your phone bill is $100/month ($1,200/year). By taking that tax deduction (what you call a write off), you get to reduce your taxable income by $1,200. So that would save you 25% of that (or $300) on your taxes. That means that you paid a net $900 for the phone line. So to say that "it doesn't cost you anything" is not true.
 
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lakebum431 said:
Wrong. I guess you don't understand how taxes work. You are taking a deduction for 100% of the bill. That means that you reduced your net income by that amount. But you don't pay 100% tax on the amount you profit. You pay somewhere between 10%-39.6% in tax on that income (depending on your income tax bracket). Therefore it only saves you that % of the bill. You actually pay the rest. Let's try an example. Let's say your profit for the year is $50,000 before you take into consideration this bill. Assuming you are a sole proprietor that would put you in the 25% tax bracket. Let's say that your phone bill is $100/month ($1,200/year). By taking that tax deduction (what you call a write off), you get to reduce your taxable income by $1,200. So that would save you 25% of that (or $300) on your taxes. That means that you paid a net $900 for the phone line. So to say that "it doesn't cost you anything" is not true.
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QUIET! I'm trying to sell him a bridge!
 
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lakebum431 said:
Wrong. I guess you don't understand how taxes work. You are taking a deduction for 100% of the bill. That means that you reduced your net income by that amount. But you don't pay 100% tax on the amount you profit. You pay somewhere between 10%-39.6% in tax on that income (depending on your income tax bracket). Therefore it only saves you that % of the bill. You actually pay the rest. Let's try an example. Let's say your profit for the year is $50,000 before you take into consideration this bill. Assuming you are a sole proprietor that would put you in the 25% tax bracket. Let's say that your phone bill is $100/month ($1,200/year). By taking that tax deduction (what you call a write off), you get to reduce your taxable income by $1,200. So that would save you 25% of that (or $300) on your taxes. That means that you paid a net $900 for the phone line. So to say that "it doesn't cost you anything" is not true.
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I understand perfectly how it works.
But the $300,000 net profit I made last year compared to the $665,000 gross , $900 isn't costing me anything !
You think $900 a year can't be washed when you lose $90,000 of your money in taxes?

It can be, Easily, you think I pay retail price for everthing?
On paper I do.
I pay over $20,000 in taxes every quarter. You really think $320 vs $290 every 3 months for phone service makes any difference?
 
Troch77 said:
I understand perfectly how it works.
But the $300,000 net profit I made last year compared to the $665,000 gross , $900 isn't costing me anything !
You think $900 a year can't be washed when you lose $90,000 of your money in taxes?

It can be, Easily, you think I pay retail price for everthing?
On paper I do.
I pay over $20,000 in taxes every quarter. You really think $320 vs $290 every 3 months for phone service makes any difference?
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Saying that something isn't material to your bottom line vs. saying that it doesn't cost you anything is vastly different. Nice job bragging about being a liar on your taxes though.. :rolleyes:
 
6 tuners, Still prime time anytime But I want a special Tuner that only does PTA that doesn't take away from the 6 available tuners.
So 7 I guess.

Really that's my only request.
The rest is Just better operating Joeys, and the ability to add a Super Joey to a Dual hopper account.
 
Apple TV Partnership.
I predict that since Apple can not get into the business that they will partner with Dish.
The new Hopper will be a what it is today, PLUS an Apple TV server.
There will be a new app on the Apple TV that came out today that will integrate with the Hopper allowing you to get all live and recorded shows.
This will be done by using your home Network similar to how the Dish app works today but in 1080p on the Apple TV and better with Siri search
The new Hopper will have 6 tuners to support this and faster Wireless support for the apple tv

I will call it the new Hopper Server.

PS it will also work with Roku.
 
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There have been some great ideas for an upgraded Hopper presented so far. I would be happy with many of them as long as they are selectable as options.. I would like to see the Hopper become as wireless as possible. The technology is available for wireless AC. How about replacing Moca with wireless router WIFI like connections between HWSs, super Joeys and Joeys. Imagine new installs or upgrades without the need for rewiring. I saw a demonstration of wireless HDMI using a router and another using Bluetooth. There are 2 or 3 other ways to get wireless HDMI. A standard is needed. The space behind my home theater system is a wiring nightmare that would be helped with a wireless Dish system.
 
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