Price for virtual Joey??

[Scherrman]

I have not heard anything about a price for any of the Joeys or the availability of them. I would not trust what you are hearing from any Dish CSRs yet even though they are most likely right this time. I don't think anything is official yet though.

 

[lucky86]

The virtual Joey already launched to the public and I called and was able to verify that the VJ is $7 per month.

 

[GaryPen]

From what I've seen it's nothing like Dish Anywhere. To me it acts exactly like a Joey and uses a Joey remote. You don't need any kind of computer or other external site. When I saw it last year they said you may be able to have it so the app opens up when you turn the TV on so there is no messing around with going into the apps menu.

I was referring solely to the R&D cost, not the functionality. It s doubtful that the cost of creating the Joey app was significantly more than the cost of creating and maintaining Dish Anywhere.

 

[GaryPen]

The virtual Joey already launched to the public and I called and was able to verify that the VJ is $7 per month.

If true, that fee is insulting and offensive.

 

[riffjim4069]

If true, that fee is insulting and offensive.

I have no problem charging Dish $7 per month to run their app on my PS3.

 

[GaryPen]

I have no problem charging Dish $7 per month to run their app on my PS3.

And, some dogs are still loyal to their owners, despite being abused by them.

 

[dangue]

The pricing on the VJoey is a mistake.

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[GaryPen]

The pricing on the VJoey is a mistake.

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Do you mean the person reporting the $7 number is mistaken, or Dish is making a mistake by pricing it too high?

 

[dangue]

Do you mean the person reporting the $7 number is mistaken, or Dish is making a mistake by pricing it too high?

Sorry for being unclear. Dish is making a mistake with the pricing.

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[navychop]

It's a gamble. We'll see. Not the best choice IMO.

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[Scherrman]

I don't see how it's a gamble. I don't see why Dish cares if lots of people adopt it or not. It's a product that can fits a need for some and they will be willing to pay it. For people who are able to put a Joey there already I'm sure Dish would just prefer you to do just that. I don't know why everyone is so upset and acting like this is a mistake by Dish.

 

[Scherrman]

The virtual Joey already launched to the public and I called and was able to verify that the VJ is $7 per month.

I tend not to believe info like this until I either get a confirmation on the retailer portal or if I hear it from Scott.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

I tend not to believe info like this until I either get a confirmation on the retailer portal or if I hear it from Scott.

It is $7.

 

[Scherrman]

And now I believe it.

 

[TheKrell]

I don't see how it's a gamble. I don't see why Dish cares if lots of people adopt it or not. It's a product that can fits a need for some and they will be willing to pay it. For people who are able to put a Joey there already I'm sure Dish would just prefer you to do just that. I don't know why everyone is so upset and acting like this is a mistake by Dish.

Well... Armchair managers want to second-guess what Dish is doing all the time. In this case, we know that the Virtual Joey had development costs, and that these need to be recouped, somewhere. If Dish prices the Virtual Joey at $7/mo and nobody buys it, then they're not getting any return on that investment, and the development cost is shifted elsewhere. Might as well not develop a VJ at all.

 

[agentc13]

I tend not to believe info like this until I either get a confirmation on the retailer portal or if I hear it from Scott.

It is $7.

Yeah, it was posted on the tech portal (for internal techs at least) on Tuesday.

Introducing the Virtual Joey!

It is now possible with recent advancements in technology and the power of the Hopper system to enjoy DISH programming using an in-TV app that gives users a Virtual Joey experience!

Customers who meet the following requirements can enjoy the Virtual Joey without the purchase of additional equipment:

• Must have an active account with a Hopper w/ Sling or Hopper
• Hopper or Hopper w/ Sling must be hard-wired via Ethernet cable to the home network
• Smart TV must be connected to the home network with an Ethernet cable
• Must have a compatible device
• For the initial launch, the Virtual Joey will be available on 2013 and 2014 LG Smart TVs
• Sony PlayStation 3 and 4 to be added later in 2014

Key Features

• The Virtual Joey operates with either the Hopper or Hopper with Sling
• Uses the same intuitive interface as the existing Joey (although apps are not available)
• Access to all subscribed channels, DVR, and On Demand

Customer Ordering Process

• Hopper customers can contact the CSC to add the Virtual Joey service to their account
• There will be a $7 monthly fee to the customer
• Adding the service to the account will trigger the shipment of the 40.0 remote control to the customer
  • This is the same remote that is included with Hoppers and Joeys
  • Setup instructions will be provided with the 40.0 remote; there is no additional charge for the remote shipment to the customer
  • This remote will allow full functionality such as EPG access, channel changing, and DVR features
• Customers may use one Virtual Joey per account
• Benefits: Being able to provide customers with options that accompany their other electronic devices helps us deliver the best experience possible, and we can also continue to prove our status as one of the most advanced companies in the industry. The Virtual Joey gives customers the option to have all the features of a Joey without having to order the additional receiver.

 

[Scherrman]

Well, we armchair managers want to second-guess what Dish is doing all the time. In this case, we believe that the Virtual Joey had development costs, and that these need to be recouped, somewhere. If Dish prices the Virtual Joey at $7/mo and nobody buys it, then they're not getting any return on their investment. Might as well not develop a VJ at all.

I see your point. I guess if I'm Dish I look at it like this, if it fits a need then you'll be willing to pay it. If you think you might as well just get a Joey then it still makes no difference to me. The other way to think about it is this, make it cheaper since we assume they have a lower cost in it and then more people will be willing to get it and Dish will make more money off of the amount of people that have it.

I assume Dish is thinking it would take away from customers that would normally have a regular Joey at that TV thus losing money. It's hard to say other than no customer will every be happy unless it's free. (Some would still find a way to complain though)

 

[cosmo_kramer]

Sorry for being unclear. Dish is making a mistake with the pricing.

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Especially since it's not as full-functional as a physical Joey...

 

[agentc13]

There are a couple of benefits I see of a VJ over a standard Joey (with both being $7). Although some may not matter to many people it may to some.

1. With a VJ you can deactivate it when you want without having to purchase the Joey. As opposed to paying $100 (or whatever the current price is) for that privilege. This only matters if you don't plan on using all the joeys every month.
2. No hardware/cables to hide beyond what you already have. I know it isn't too hard to hide a joey behind a wall mounted TV, but this would avoid that altogether. Some people don't care about this, but others are completely anal about it.
3. You can move the VJ to any TV that can run it (or the PS3/4 when that is released) without having to have coax run to that location.

That's all I can think of off the top of my head, and they may not matter to many people, but I can see some people really liking those aspects.

And really, if you don't think it's worth $7 then don't use a VJ. Just stick with the other options (at this time just the original Joey).

 

[Scherrman]

There are a couple of benefits I see of a VJ over a standard Joey (with both being $7). Although some may not matter to many people it may to some.

1. With a VJ you can deactivate it when you want without having to purchase the Joey. As opposed to paying $100 (or whatever the current price is) for that privilege. This only matters if you don't plan on using all the joeys every month.
2. No hardware/cables to hide beyond what you already have. I know it isn't too hard to hide a joey behind a wall mounted TV, but this would avoid that altogether. Some people don't care about this, but others are completely anal about it.
3. You can move the VJ to any TV that can run it (or the PS3/4 when that is released) without having to have coax run to that location.

That's all I can think of off the top of my head, and they may not matter to many people, but I can see some people really liking those aspects.

And really, if you don't think it's worth $7 then don't use a VJ. Just stick with the other options (at this time just the original Joey).

Not having to do a Dish N' It Up is a huge advantage. The customer does not have to go to a retailer or set up an appointment with Dish to have a Joey installed. You do not have to pay a tech visit fee. You do not have to renew a 24 month commitment. You do not have any equipment to lease. You do not have to provide a credit card to upgrade.

All you do is call up Dish and activate the app. You pay $7 a month for as long as it's active and when you're done with it you just call Dish and deactivate it. Simple.