Yeah, it kinda surprises me how much people care about HD locals. When I was up at my parents house this past weekend for Thanksgiving they were very pissed off at Comcast and the crappy HD DVR that they provide and were ready to make the switch (they are on their 4th HD DVR in a year because they keep screwing up). But when they realized that they can't get their locals in HD (as they do with comcast) they scrapped the Dish idea. The thing is they have a very nice setup. A 50" Pioneer Plasma with a nice surround sound system and my Dad just doesn't want to mess with OTA. He likes that he has 2 DVR tuners with Comcast's box. I really think that until the satellite companies can add basically all of the HD locals they are going to be losing out to the cable co's. It sucks, but that is how it is.