PVR question

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I am excited about getting the AZ Box Ultra!
With those who uses the PVR feature, how is it? Unlike the Directv and Dish PVR setup where you can record by picking the show, time, and channel to record, it seem to be hard to do that on FTA. I can't get the EPG to come up on any of the FTA receivers!
What's the scoop on this?
 
I am excited about getting the AZ Box Ultra!
With those who uses the PVR feature, how is it? Unlike the Directv and Dish PVR setup where you can record by picking the show, time, and channel to record, it seem to be hard to do that on FTA. I can't get the EPG to come up on any of the FTA receivers!
What's the scoop on this?
The EPG will come up with FTA receivers _IF_ there IS an EIT in the stream, but most FTA channels don't have this information on the transponder, so the receiver can't give you what isn't there.

There are very few examples of FTA channels that have programming info, however OTA channels generally have a populated program guide. I use TSREADER on my OTA channels all the time to schedule recordings. Of course, some receivers don't work very well with FTA or OTA program info, but some work well. I've never tried the Azbox guide, mainly because no channel I watch has any program info in the stream.
 
Thank you guys. It is the same way on the OTA as well, where I live.

I think that the EIT info on the OTA ATSC channels is slightly different from that on DVB sat channels, so it's not unexpected that FTA receivers might not be able to populate the guides on OTA channels. My CS8100 and my Diamond 9000 don't populate the guide on OTA channels. TSREADER, however is able to do it pretty well though, on both OTA and satellite.
 
I think that the EIT info on the OTA ATSC channels is slightly different from that on DVB sat channels, so it's not unexpected that FTA receivers might not be able to populate the guides on OTA channels. My CS8100 and my Diamond 9000 don't populate the guide on OTA channels. TSREADER, however is able to do it pretty well though, on both OTA and satellite.

From what I just read about TSREADER, you need to feed the MPEG-2 stream to a FTA PCI or PCIe receiver card in a PC. Unless someone has been able to install this application into a stand alone FTA receiver (such as Azbox)?
 
I've been wondering if I should spend the extra bucks for a 7200 RPM hard drive or is a 5400 RPM drive adequate?
 
From what I just read about TSREADER, you need to feed the MPEG-2 stream to a FTA PCI or PCIe receiver card in a PC. Unless someone has been able to install this application into a stand alone FTA receiver (such as Azbox)?

No, there isn't any way to install TSREADER on the Azbox. The point I was trying to make is that receivers in general can usually populate their guides if one exists, but that they usually don't exist, but then I gave the example of how I use the OTA guides all the time with TSREADER, but just commented that some receivers which do OTA ATSC don't seem to have working guides on the OTA channels, even though their guides work on some DVB channels. Just was indicating that TSREADER is at least one example by which you can use both DVB and OTA guides.... if they exist.

That being said..... I had remembered seeing some "streaming" feature on the Azbox , but I never tried it. It just occurred to me that this might possibly be a way to use TSREADER with the Azbox, at least to some limited extent, ie for just a single channel, rather than the whole mux. However, I can't seem to get it to work, and I'm not sure if it's HTTP or UDP streaming. I tuned in a channel on the Az, and hit the little menu button, and selected streaming, and gave it the IP# of one of my computers running TSREADER, and selected a port number. I then went to that computer and tried to receive the stream in both HTTP and UDP mode, but I got nothing. I'm not sure what the problem was. Perhaps I have to start TSREADER before starting the streaming? Anyway, I'm curious if anyone else has tried this streaming function, and if so, how did you set it up?
I guess when I have more time, I'll turn on a packet sniffer to see what's happening, and perhaps try with VLC instead of TSREADER.
It probably wouldn't include any guide info anyway, which was the reason I started thinking about it, but I'm still curious about whether the streaming function actually works.
 
Which (hard drive) SATA version should I get for this box? I've been reading that there is a SATA 1, SATA 2, and SATA 3 available.
 
And I have never being able to make the Azbox succesfully record anything by itself when I am not at home after Reserving a Recording. I always reserve a recording manually (mostly univision on 91W or canarias on hispasat which has no EPG). I also make sure it is on the reserved lists and I have tried leaving teh receiver on and also in stand by and still it does not record anything. BTW I alwasy leave the dish parked and tune in to the apropiate channel and nothing. I come home , no recording at all. I have AZ P+ with 5020 fw. the reserved list only has 1 reservation , the one that I want to make. and there is still plenty of HDD capacity and just a few recordings. but I think I remember I succesfully recorded from DW-NA that has EPG by pressing rec on the EPG and making the reservation there, will try again to see if that is the only way it works.
 
Do you have to leave the Ultra on for the reserve to work?
I hate the EPG is crappy in FTA for me to use it to record.
So far my HDD setup is really working great!
 
I have no idea , I have tried both , on and on the same channel and off(standby) , but still I get home and nothing is recorded. I have tried with Timeshift enabled and also disabled and makes no difference. I guess this AZbox does not like spanish programming , lol. The HDD and external USB HDD works great for normal direct vieweing recording or even for timeshifting. At first I thought it was that the Azbox was not moving the dish so I decided to alwasy leave the dish parked on the same sat I want it to record from , and still nothing.
 
even with channels that has EPG it does not even work. the only way for me to record something is by being present in front of the receiver at the time of recording and using the remote to do so. this is useless and unacceptable. I thought it was the hdd going into sleep or something but no, that is not the case either. I have rebooted. I will probably reinstall firmware again and even from scratch to see if it fixes it. both my drives are fromatted by the AZ using Linux ext2. Ran out of ideas already.
 
thanks but that is exactly what i am doing and still it does not record, how frustrating. it is obviously my AZbox only so I will reformat everything and start from scratch. thanks again.
 

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