RE: [VOOM] The New VOOM

[Stan Sexton]

[VOOM] The New VOOM

We say in real estate that there is no problem property, just problem
ownership.
I think this is the case with VOOM.
VOOM may have been a financial drain for Cablevision but it may be a easy
deal for Dish.
For just $200 million, Echostar gets the South Dakota uplink facility, the
Rainbow Sat, and probably some choice programming.
I bet Echostar has already figured out that they can simply add those High
Def channels to their SD and HD channel lie-ups and have the greatest
selection of channels existant.
They could also leave the existing VOOM subscribers in place and just
continue the service to us, while selling more Mot STBs to new subscribers.
No one says you can't run two ships at one time.
Existing VOOM subscibers could also get a new STB from Dish and a HD DVR.
They will just shoot each Voom channel out on two frequencies.
I don't think Echostar is going to toss out and dead-end existing VOOM
subscribers. They need HD Sat capacity badly.
They aren't going to throw out/close down their new $200 million dollar
baby.
VOOM makes more sense to Echostar than Cablevision now, and especially at
the bargain price of $200 million.
I also feel that there are more than 26,000 subscribers. Dolan Sr. was
probably yelling at James that they were just starting on the growth curve.
We've all seen the mass advertising in the last Quarter.
I'm not worried about my $800 investment in VOOM last April.
Yes, there may be change. I may lose my free HBO as a Pioneer subscriber.
I may eventually pay more than $40.00 a month.
But to true HD freaks like me, I get more value with VOOM than with the
crummy SD that costs more with Cox Cable.
And since most cities served by Dish get local channels via Sat, Dish won't
be saddled with the local antenna installation mess and dissatisfaction
factor (upgrades) that is financially killing VOOM.
So, fellow VOOMERS, don't cry. This may be the greatest ride of your life.
I think we will all get grandfathered and come down in what's called a
"Golden Parachute".
Stan in San Diego




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[gutter]

Just to be accurate. At this pont only, Echostar only bought the one satellite and the new uplink facility. No programming, production facility or customer base.

 

[mdonnelly]

We say in real estate that there is no problem property, just problem
ownership.
I think this is the case with VOOM.
VOOM may have been a financial drain for Cablevision but it may be a easy
deal for Dish.
For just $200 million, Echostar gets the South Dakota uplink facility, the
Rainbow Sat, and probably some choice programming.
I bet Echostar has already figured out that they can simply add those High
Def channels to their SD and HD channel lie-ups and have the greatest
selection of channels existant.
They could also leave the existing VOOM subscribers in place and just
continue the service to us, while selling more Mot STBs to new subscribers.
No one says you can't run two ships at one time.
Existing VOOM subscibers could also get a new STB from Dish and a HD DVR.
They will just shoot each Voom channel out on two frequencies.
I don't think Echostar is going to toss out and dead-end existing VOOM
subscribers. They need HD Sat capacity badly.
They aren't going to throw out/close down their new $200 million dollar
baby.
VOOM makes more sense to Echostar than Cablevision now, and especially at
the bargain price of $200 million.
I also feel that there are more than 26,000 subscribers. Dolan Sr. was
probably yelling at James that they were just starting on the growth curve.
We've all seen the mass advertising in the last Quarter.
I'm not worried about my $800 investment in VOOM last April.
Yes, there may be change. I may lose my free HBO as a Pioneer subscriber.
I may eventually pay more than $40.00 a month.
But to true HD freaks like me, I get more value with VOOM than with the
crummy SD that costs more with Cox Cable.
And since most cities served by Dish get local channels via Sat, Dish won't
be saddled with the local antenna installation mess and dissatisfaction
factor (upgrades) that is financially killing VOOM.
So, fellow VOOMERS, don't cry. This may be the greatest ride of your life.
I think we will all get grandfathered and come down in what's called a
"Golden Parachute".
Stan in San Diego ------------------------

This, my friends, is a true optimist.

 

[Bob Mankin]

A couple of things;

1)They didn't get any "choice" programming AFAIK. Only the satellite and
support facility. The programming is part of the remaining assets that CVC
has yet to sell.

2)Because of the satellite orbit location, DISH can't simply add the
bandwidth to their lineup and have a big leg up on the competition. It would
require 2 dishes for customers to reach both their current stuff and this
new bird. Possibly the FCC, DOJ, DoD and anybody else that needs to weigh in
allows them to move the bird, but for now they don't meet the single dish
FCC spec. Maybe they offer a HD service independent of their regular deal. I
don't think even DISH has figured this out yet.

This little soap opera hasn't played out yet, by any stretch.

Bob



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stan Sexton [mailto:stanathomesell@cox.net]
> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 4:07 PM
> To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [VOOM] The New VOOM
>
>
> We say in real estate that there is no problem property, just
> problem ownership.
> I think this is the case with VOOM.
> VOOM may have been a financial drain for Cablevision but it
> may be a easy deal for Dish.
> For just $200 million, Echostar gets the South Dakota uplink
> facility, the Rainbow Sat, and probably some choice programming.
> I bet Echostar has already figured out that they can simply
> add those High Def channels to their SD and HD channel
> lie-ups and have the greatest selection of channels existant.
> They could also leave the existing VOOM subscribers in place
> and just continue the service to us, while selling more Mot
> STBs to new subscribers.
> No one says you can't run two ships at one time.
> Existing VOOM subscibers could also get a new STB from Dish
> and a HD DVR.
> They will just shoot each Voom channel out on two frequencies.
> I don't think Echostar is going to toss out and dead-end
> existing VOOM subscribers. They need HD Sat capacity badly.
> They aren't going to throw out/close down their new $200
> million dollar baby.
> VOOM makes more sense to Echostar than Cablevision now, and
> especially at the bargain price of $200 million.
> I also feel that there are more than 26,000 subscribers.
> Dolan Sr. was probably yelling at James that they were just
> starting on the growth curve.
> We've all seen the mass advertising in the last Quarter.
> I'm not worried about my $800 investment in VOOM last April.
> Yes, there may be change. I may lose my free HBO as a
> Pioneer subscriber.
> I may eventually pay more than $40.00 a month.
> But to true HD freaks like me, I get more value with VOOM
> than with the crummy SD that costs more with Cox Cable.
> And since most cities served by Dish get local channels via
> Sat, Dish won't be saddled with the local antenna
> installation mess and dissatisfaction factor (upgrades) that
> is financially killing VOOM.
> So, fellow VOOMERS, don't cry. This may be the greatest ride
> of your life.
> I think we will all get grandfathered and come down in what's
> called a "Golden Parachute".
> Stan in San Diego
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------

 

[Plywodstatebum]

I'd rather listen to STAN than all the cry babies, whining about "There Goes Voom. They may surprise y'all and be here for years to come.
But I was a Teenager in the 60's I believe anything

 

[Steve Bartosch]

[VOOM] Re: The New VOOM

If Charlie did decide to use the content for Dish Network AND keep
Voom customers happy, wouldn't he have an issue with the conflict
between Digicipher and MPEG2/DVB???


--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "Stan Sexton" <stanathomesell@c...>
wrote:
> We say in real estate that there is no problem property, just
problem
> ownership.
> I think this is the case with VOOM.
> VOOM may have been a financial drain for Cablevision but it may be
a easy
> deal for Dish.
> For just $200 million, Echostar gets the South Dakota uplink
facility, the
> Rainbow Sat, and probably some choice programming.
> I bet Echostar has already figured out that they can simply add
those High
> Def channels to their SD and HD channel lie-ups and have the
greatest
> selection of channels existant.
> They could also leave the existing VOOM subscribers in place and
just
> continue the service to us, while selling more Mot STBs to new
subscribers.
> No one says you can't run two ships at one time.
> Existing VOOM subscibers could also get a new STB from Dish and a
HD DVR.
> They will just shoot each Voom channel out on two frequencies.
> I don't think Echostar is going to toss out and dead-end existing
VOOM
> subscribers. They need HD Sat capacity badly.
> They aren't going to throw out/close down their new $200 million
dollar
> baby.
> VOOM makes more sense to Echostar than Cablevision now, and
especially at
> the bargain price of $200 million.
> I also feel that there are more than 26,000 subscribers. Dolan Sr.
was
> probably yelling at James that they were just starting on the
growth curve.
> We've all seen the mass advertising in the last Quarter.
> I'm not worried about my $800 investment in VOOM last April.
> Yes, there may be change. I may lose my free HBO as a Pioneer
subscriber.
> I may eventually pay more than $40.00 a month.
> But to true HD freaks like me, I get more value with VOOM than
with the
> crummy SD that costs more with Cox Cable.
> And since most cities served by Dish get local channels via Sat,
Dish won't
> be saddled with the local antenna installation mess and
dissatisfaction
> factor (upgrades) that is financially killing VOOM.
> So, fellow VOOMERS, don't cry. This may be the greatest ride of
your life.
> I think we will all get grandfathered and come down in what's
called a
> "Golden Parachute".
> Stan in San Diego





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[gutter]

Just to be accurate. At this pont only, Echostar only bought the one
satellite and the new uplink facility. No programming, production
facility or customer base.


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[mdonnelly]

Stan Sexton Wrote:
> We say in real estate that there is no problem property, just problem
> ownership.
> I think this is the case with VOOM.
> VOOM may have been a financial drain for Cablevision but it may be a
> easy
> deal for Dish.
> For just $200 million, Echostar gets the South Dakota uplink facility,
> the
> Rainbow Sat, and probably some choice programming.
> I bet Echostar has already figured out that they can simply add those
> High
> Def channels to their SD and HD channel lie-ups and have the greatest
> selection of channels existant.
> They could also leave the existing VOOM subscribers in place and just
> continue the service to us, while selling more Mot STBs to new
> subscribers.
> No one says you can't run two ships at one time.
> Existing VOOM subscibers could also get a new STB from Dish and a HD
> DVR.
> They will just shoot each Voom channel out on two frequencies.
> I don't think Echostar is going to toss out and dead-end existing VOOM
>
> subscribers. They need HD Sat capacity badly.
> They aren't going to throw out/close down their new $200 million dollar
>
> baby.
> VOOM makes more sense to Echostar than Cablevision now, and especially
> at
> the bargain price of $200 million.
> I also feel that there are more than 26,000 subscribers. Dolan Sr. was
>
> probably yelling at James that they were just starting on the growth
> curve.
> We've all seen the mass advertising in the last Quarter.
> I'm not worried about my $800 investment in VOOM last April.
> Yes, there may be change. I may lose my free HBO as a Pioneer
> subscriber.
> I may eventually pay more than $40.00 a month.
> But to true HD freaks like me, I get more value with VOOM than with the
>
> crummy SD that costs more with Cox Cable.
> And since most cities served by Dish get local channels via Sat, Dish
> won't
> be saddled with the local antenna installation mess and dissatisfaction
>
> factor (upgrades) that is financially killing VOOM.
> So, fellow VOOMERS, don't cry. This may be the greatest ride of your
> life.
> I think we will all get grandfathered and come down in what's called a
>
> "Golden Parachute".
> Stan in San Diego ------------------------This, my friends, is a true optimist.


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[Plywodstatebum]

I'd rather listen to STAN than all the cry babies, whining about
"There Goes Voom. They may surprise y'all and be here for years to
come.
But I was a Teenager in the 60's I believe anything


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Plywodstatebum
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