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berck

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I've always heard complaints from E* and D* about ESPN's PQ while I was watching it on cable. I never understood what everybody was talking about until I went back to satellite with D*. ESPN was absolutely pristine on cable in HD. I think is just a issue with the MPEG compression and all the information in a NFL / sportgame. When its bit starved too much, the PQ will suffer. It was never a problem under cable.
 

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I've always heard complaints from E* and D* about ESPN's PQ while I was watching it on cable. I never understood what everybody was talking about until I went back to satellite with D*. ESPN was absolutely pristine on cable in HD. I think is just a issue with the MPEG compression and all the information in a NFL / sportgame. When its bit starved too much, the PQ will suffer. It was never a problem under cable.

On the mpeg2 or mpeg4 channels? I don't believe that cable looks any better than it does on mpeg4 now. I have seen both within the last week, no way it looks any better.
 

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I've always heard complaints from E* and D* about ESPN's PQ while I was watching it on cable. I never understood what everybody was talking about until I went back to satellite with D*. ESPN was absolutely pristine on cable in HD. I think is just a issue with the MPEG compression and all the information in a NFL / sportgame. When its bit starved too much, the PQ will suffer. It was never a problem under cable.

Your flaw with this complaint is that BTN and NFLHD both look awesome, and they get the same bandwidth. Its not what D*'s allowing, its what ESPN is sending many of the times.
 

harryz417

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nbc looked ALOT better then last year watching the HALL OF FAME GAME sunday nite.....anyone agree? not as much grain and at least in nyc it looked MUCH better
 

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I watched it OTA, the static shots and close ups werent bad, but the motion and large field shots looked bad.


You bring up a good point about the large field camera shots. I just posted about how good the NBC hd game NFL Sunday night looked better because the cameras were closer to the field. I think networks need to take note on where to place cameras when shooting for hd.
 

berck

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Your flaw with this complaint is that BTN and NFLHD both look awesome, and they get the same bandwidth. Its not what D*'s allowing, its what ESPN is sending many of the times.


My flaw? Again, I would watch the exact same game on ESPN HD. The next day, all of you complained about the PQ, but it was absolutely great on cable. My cable systems HD PQ quality is better than D*. What I have noticed now is the the colors seem better under MPEG4 than MPEG2. But there is much less compression artifacts under cable. That maybe changing thought because I've been hearing roomers that the cable companies are thinking about over compression the signal to fit more HD channels too.
 
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