Scrambled channel on KU Telstar 5

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I have a Captive Works CW-600S Premium receiver on a SG 2100 Motor. I set the antena for the satellite and get about 80% signal strenght and about 50% signal quality. I run blind search (easy tuning). It finds about 119 channels but all of them are shown as scrambled -- no picture or sound.

I think I have set up my antena right (zip code 46038, longitude 85.6W, latitude 39.6N). The only thing I m not sure about is the motor elevation angle -- I don't know 39.6 should be on the elevation or on the latitude scale of the motor.

Could anyone please help ?
 
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I guess you are pointing at the wrong satellite, any channel names?

It may be an idea to remove the motor for now and use the below angles to find the satellite first!

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                       Fishers, IN 46038
          Latitude 39° 57.450'N Longitude 86° 1.380'W

                       Sat Name Sat Lng Az(t) Az(m)   El  Skew
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                          NSS 7   22.0W 107.4 111.7 11.1 -47.0
                               
                   Intelsat 905   24.5W 109.2 113.6 13.0 -46.4
                               
                   Intelsat 907   27.5W 111.5 115.8 15.2 -45.5
                               
                  Hispasat 1C/D   30.0W 113.4 117.8 17.0 -44.7
                               
                   Intelsat 801   31.5W 114.6 119.0 18.2 -44.2
                               
                   Intelsat 903   34.5W 117.0 121.4 20.3 -43.1
                               
                    AMC 12/T 11   37.5W 119.6 124.0 22.5 -41.8
                               
                        NSS 806   40.5W 122.2 126.6 24.6 -40.4
                               
                      Pas 3R/6B   43.0W 124.5 128.9 26.3 -39.2
                               
                         Pas 1R   45.0W 126.4 130.8 27.6 -38.1
                               
                   Intelsat 705   50.0W 131.5 135.8 30.9 -35.1
                               
                   Intelsat 707   53.0W 134.7 139.0 32.7 -33.0
                               
                   Intelsat 805   55.5W 137.4 141.8 34.1 -31.2
                               
                          Pas 9   58.0W 140.4 144.7 35.5 -29.3
                               
                       Amazonas   61.0W 144.0 148.4 37.1 -26.8
                               
                     EchoStar 3   61.5W 144.6 149.0 37.3 -26.4
                               
                      Rainbow 1   61.5W 144.6 149.0 37.3 -26.4
                               
               Estrela do Sul 1   63.0W 146.5 150.9 38.0 -25.0
                               
                   Brasilsat B2   65.0W 149.1 153.5 38.9 -23.2
                               
                   Brasilsat B1   70.0W 155.9 160.3 40.9 -18.2
                               
                       Nahuel 1   71.8W 158.5 162.8 41.5 -16.3
                               
                      DirecTV 1   72.5W 159.5 163.8 41.7 -15.6
                               
                          AMC 6   72.0W 158.7 163.1 41.5 -16.1
                               
                          SBS 6   74.0W 161.7 166.0 42.1 -14.0
                               
                     Echostar 4   77.0W 166.1 170.5 42.8 -10.6
                               
                          AMC 5   79.0W 169.1 173.5 43.2  -8.3
                               
                      Nimiq 2/3   82.0W 173.8 178.1 43.6  -4.8
                               
                          AMC-9   83.0W 175.3 179.7 43.7  -3.6
                               
                   Brasilsat B3   84.0W 176.9 181.2 43.7  -2.4
                               
                          AMC 2   85.0W 178.4 182.8 43.8  -1.2
                               
                          AMC 3   87.0W 181.5 185.9 43.8   1.2
                               
                           IA-8   89.0W 184.6 189.0 43.7   3.5
                               
                      Galaxy 11   91.0W 187.7 192.1 43.5   5.9
                               
                     Nimiq 1/4i   91.0W 187.7 192.1 43.5   5.9
                               
                   Brasilsat B4   92.0W 189.3 193.6 43.4   7.1
                               
                           IA-6   93.0W 190.8 195.2 43.2   8.2
                               
                      Galaxy 3C   95.0W 193.8 198.2 42.8  10.5
                               
                           IA-5   97.0W 196.8 201.2 42.4  12.8
                               
                      Galaxy 4R   99.0W 199.7 204.1 41.9  15.0
                               
                     Spaceway 2   99.2W 200.0 204.4 41.8  15.2
                               
                DirecTV 1R/4S/8  101.0W 202.6 207.0 41.2  17.1
                               
                          AMC 4  101.0W 202.6 207.0 41.2  17.1
                               
                     Spaceway 1  103.0W 205.4 209.8 40.5  19.2
                               
                          AMC 1  103.0W 205.4 209.8 40.5  19.2
                               
                         AMC 15  105.0W 208.2 212.5 39.8  21.2
                               
                      Anik F1/R  107.3W 211.2 215.6 38.8  23.4
                               
                      DirecTV 5  109.5W 214.1 218.4 37.8  25.4
                               
                EchoStar 6/8/10  110.0W 214.7 219.1 37.6  25.9
                               
                        Anik F2  111.1W 216.1 220.5 37.0  26.8
                               
                  Solidaridad 2  113.0W 218.4 222.8 36.1  28.4
                               
                       SatMex 6  115.0W 220.8 225.1 35.0  30.0
                               
                       SatMex 5  116.8W 222.8 227.2 34.0  31.4
                               
                         AMC-16  119.0W 225.3 229.7 32.7  33.0
                               
                     DirecTV 7s  119.0W 225.3 229.7 32.7  33.0
                               
                     EchoStar 7  119.0W 225.3 229.7 32.7  33.0
                               
          EchoStar 9/Telstar 13  121.0W 227.4 231.8 31.5  34.4
                               
                     Galaxy 10R  123.0W 229.5 233.9 30.3  35.7
                               
                      Galaxy 14  125.0W 231.6 235.9 29.0  36.9
                               
                  Galaxy 13/H 1  127.0W 233.5 237.9 27.7  38.0
                               
 Intelsat Americas 7/Echostar 5  129.0W 235.4 239.8 26.3  39.1
                               
                         AMC 11  131.0W 237.3 241.6 25.0  40.2
                               
                      Galaxy 15  133.0W 239.1 243.4 23.6  41.1
                               
                         AMC 10  135.0W 240.8 245.2 22.2  42.0
                               
                          AMC 7  137.0W 242.5 246.9 20.7  42.8
                               
                          AMC 8  139.0W 244.2 248.5 19.3  43.6
                               
                   EchoStar 1/2  148.0W 251.1 255.5 12.6  46.5

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I would use AMC-3 @ 87ºw as a true south satellite when it comes to setting up your motor!

Motor Elev. = 50º

Dish (when on motor) Elev. = 24º
 
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I m looking for persian channels like :
Jame Jam TV,IRIB,Payam TV,Pars TV (PTN),PEN,PNN
Kind of hard to remove the motor.
Why are you suggesting AMC-3 ?

Thanks
 
PSB

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AMC-3 is your True south satellite, its BEST to use this or another close by satellite at the (Zenith) top of your arc when setting up a motor.

http://www.satelliteguys.us/showthread.php?t=50257

I was meaning what channel names have you FOUND not what you want, from there we can tell you what way to move the dish :)
 
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Hey appreciate you being online helping me, it s been a hot day under the sun and i really want to get this to work tonight.
Here s the channels the receiver has picked :
0001 Al Karma
0002 JS TV
0008 IRIB 2
0010 Salaam TV
0016 IRINN
0019 PEN TV
0023 Payam
0066 Pars TV
0071 PNN
0098 Jam E Jam

What does "scrambled" mean if these are all fta ?
Thanks
 
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We switched off the receiver and then switched it on and now it just works wonder !

I have a dual LNB and 2 receivers. Can I connect both LNBs to the motor with one switch ?

Thanks once more
 
PSB

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Just one LNB cabled through the motor the other can be run directly to the 2nd receiver. Only one receiver can be used to motor the dish!

Glad you got it going :)
 
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I bought a motorized dish thinking I can watch several channels from different satellites. If possible, do you have any idea how I can set it ?

Thank you:)
 
brada

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Mac 2 said:
I bought a motorized dish thinking I can watch several channels from different satellites. If possible, do you have any idea how I can set it ?

Thank you:)
You can't watch with motor from 2 satellites at the same time!
You can watch with 2 LNBs two different channels from the same sat at the same time.
 
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brada said:
You can't watch with motor from 2 satellites at the same time!
You can watch with 2 LNBs two different channels from the same sat at the same time.

Unless you are aiming at 101ºw and are using the Invacom QPH-031 Quad output LNBF where you can watch both DirecTV (If subbed) and AMC-4 at the EXACT same time ;)
 
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This morning I plugged another to the LNB. When I turned on the TV, I got a weak signal message. It found some of the channels on the satellite but with the weak signal message. Then I went and checked the first receiver that was working last night. That one was giving the weak signal message as well. Since then, I ve tried everything on the receiver that is connected to the motor but the dish cannot even find the satellite. I am puzzled. WHat has happened do your think ? What should I do ? :( :confused:
Thanks
 
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PSB said:
Unless you are aiming at 101ºw and are using the Invacom QPH-031 Quad output LNBF where you can watch both DirecTV (If subbed) and AMC-4 at the EXACT same time ;)

Or at 91ºw where you can watch both Bell expressvu (if subbed) and G11 at the EXACT same time.

Or possibly at 61.5ºw where you can watch some select Dish Network channels (if subbed) and Amazonas at the same time (sats are only .5 apart; should be able to lock on to both depending on dish size and location)
 
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scottc98 said:
Or at 91ºw where you can watch both Bell expressvu (if subbed) and G11 at the EXACT same time.

Or possibly at 61.5ºw where you can watch some select Dish Network channels (if subbed) and Amazonas at the same time (sats are only .5 apart; should be able to lock on to both depending on dish size and location)

Some more good examples, THANKS!
 
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