Special Charlie Chat Recap (Midnight Mst)

[dfergie]

<div class="bbWrapper">(NOTE THE SPECIAL CHARLIE CHAT RECAP FOLLOWS THIS POST)<br /> <b><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span class="fixed-color" style="color:navy">SatelliteGuys.<span class="fixed-color" style="color:red">Us</span></span></span></b><br /> <span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span class="fixed-color" style="color:navy">No Charlie Chat tonight, this is from a new loop same info as listed elsewhere... </span></span><br /> <span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span class="fixed-color" style="color:#000080">Edit: Charlie Chat Recap to follow, came on at Midnight Mst... working on the recap please bear with me got into this late...</span></span></div>

 

[dfergie]

<div class="bbWrapper"><b>Midnight Chat</b><br /> <br /> <span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span class="fixed-color" style="color:navy"><b>SatelliteGuys.<span class="fixed-color" style="color:red">US </span></b></span></span><br /> <span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span class="fixed-color" style="color:navy"><b><u>Special Charlie Chat Midnight MST December 1st, 2006 : Recap</u></b></span></span><br /> <b><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span class="fixed-color" style="color:#000080">Charlie Ergen and Jim DeFranco</span></span></b><br /> <br /> <b><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span class="fixed-color" style="color:#000080">Special Topic: Distants Shut Off Friday December 1st</span></span></b><br /> <br /> <span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span class="fixed-color" style="color:#000080">Welcome to the special edition Charlie Chat, there has been a lot of activity and we want to make sure you have the most current information for our customers. </span></span><br /> <span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span class="fixed-color" style="color:#000080">If you are watching tonight it means you have lost one or more of your distant networks, the reason is that a Court order by a Judge in Florida goes into effect tonight, and by midnight tonite we will shut off all of our distant network channels which are:,ABC, NBC , CBS and FOX. </span></span><br /> <span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span class="fixed-color" style="color:#000080">About 900,000 Customers are affected. 7%</span></span><br /> <span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span class="fixed-color" style="color:#000080">Group A 300,000 Customers will lose channels from outside your city (time shifting capabilities) </span></span><br /> <span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span class="fixed-color" style="color:#000080">Group B 300,000 or so 174 markets , do not sub to local channels, but they are available to you. </span></span><br /> <span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span class="fixed-color" style="color:#000080">Group C 300,000 live in one of the 33 markets where neither DISH(no LIL&#039;s) network nor any other Pay TV provider offers local network channels,or are missing some channels... no simple solution...</span></span><br /> <br /> <span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span class="fixed-color" style="color:#000080"><i><u><b>OFFER FOR AFFECTED CUSTOMERS</b></u></i></span></span><br /> <i><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span class="fixed-color" style="color:#000080">* In all local-in local markets, consumers are offered local networks free of charge through December 31st , 2006</span></span></i><br /> <br /> <i><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span class="fixed-color" style="color:#000080">*Free Satellite dish upgrade where technically feasible</span></span></i><br /> <br /> <span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span class="fixed-color" style="color:#000080"><i>*Free Off-air antenna where technically feasible</i></span></span><br /> <br /> <i><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span class="fixed-color" style="color:#000080">* Another company not affiliated with DISH Network can provide Distant Networks to qualified customers</span></span></i><br /> <br /> <span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span class="fixed-color" style="color:#000080">There is a new company that is not associated with DISH: All American Direct that starting tomorrow will be delivering to qualified customers Atlanta and San Francisco distant networks. </span></span><br /> <br /> <span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span class="fixed-color" style="color:#000080"><u><i>All American Direct</i></u></span></span><br /> <span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span class="fixed-color" style="color:#000080"><i>*C-Band dishes and satellite receivers for over 20 years</i></span></span><br /> <span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span class="fixed-color" style="color:#000080"><i>* Offers distant network channels from Atlanta or San Francisco to qualified DBS customers</i></span></span><br /> <span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span class="fixed-color" style="color:#000080"><i>*No Separate Equipment (for the most part)</i></span></span><br /> <span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span class="fixed-color" style="color:#000080"><i>*But* Broadcasters are challenging this</i></span></span><br /> <br /> <span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span class="fixed-color" style="color:#000080"><b><u>Contact All American Direct</u></b></span></span><br /> <span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span class="fixed-color" style="color:#000080"><a href="http://www.mydistantnetworks.com/" target="_blank" class="link link--external link--favicon link--favicon--before" style="background-image:url('https://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=www.mydistantnetworks.com');" rel="noopener"><b>www.mydistantnetworks.com</b></a></span></span><br /> <span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span class="fixed-color" style="color:#000080">current info available for B or C customers here... </span></span><br /> <br /> <span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span class="fixed-color" style="color:#000080">Another possibility DirecTV</span></span><br /> <br /> <span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span class="fixed-color" style="color:#000080">Customers who were receiving these distant channels will not be billed anymore (credited for partial months etc)</span></span><br /> <br /> <span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span class="fixed-color" style="color:#000080"><u><b>How you can help:</b></u></span></span><br /> <span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span class="fixed-color" style="color:#000080">Call 1-888-267-1227 to contact your Congressman</span></span><br /> <span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span class="fixed-color" style="color:#000080">Visit <a href="http://www.savemychannels.com" target="_blank" class="link link--external link--favicon link--favicon--before" style="background-image:url('https://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=www.savemychannels.com');" rel="noopener"><b>www.savemychannels.com</b></a></span></span><br /> <span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span class="fixed-color" style="color:#000080">Congress will be back in session December 4th...</span></span><br /> <br /> <span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span class="fixed-color" style="color:#000080"><u><b>Senators who all stood up for your rights</b></u></span></span><br /> <span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span class="fixed-color" style="color:#000080">Leahy, Allard , Inoyye, Snowe, Rockefeller, Byrd, Salazar, Clinton, Roberts, Pryor, Enzi, Ensign</span></span><br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span class="fixed-color" style="color:#000080">Questions: on Sound bytes</span></span><br /> <br /> <span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span class="fixed-color" style="color:#000080">Next Charlie Chat in a couple of weeks</span></span></div>

 

[C1787GJ]

<div class="bbWrapper">Charlie was only a couple hours late!! Good thing Scott didn&#039;t stay up waiting! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> Thanks dfergie!</div>

 

[dfergie]

<div class="bbWrapper">Your welcome! just happened across this when I went to bed, still working on... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></div>

 

[rockymtnhigh]

<div class="bbWrapper">Thanks Don. You da man!!!</div>

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

<div class="bbWrapper">My wife said I was out cold within 10 minutes after leaving the SatelliteGuys chat last night. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><br /> <br /> Thanks Don for the great recap!</div>

 

[MikeI]

<div class="bbWrapper">How can distant networks be shut off if you have waivers to receive them? Are the waivers not good anymore?</div>

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="MikeI" data-source="post: 737671" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/xen/goto/post?id=737671" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-737671">MikeI said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> How can distant networks be shut off if you have waivers to receive them? Are the waivers not good anymore? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote> Correct the court has voided all the waivers.</div>

 

[dfergie]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Scott Greczkowski" data-source="post: 737621" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/xen/goto/post?id=737621" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-737621">Scott Greczkowski said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> My wife said I was out cold within 10 minutes after leaving the SatelliteGuys chat last night. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><br /> <br /> Thanks Don for the great recap! </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Thanks <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> , I was running out of steam (and time) or would have transcribed a lot more, and put up sound bytes a lot less...</div>

 

[Tom Bombadil]

<div class="bbWrapper">Interesting stuff. Great recap.<br /> <br /> So 2/3rds of the affected subs are not losing access to network programming? They are losing only access to &quot;local&quot; programming (i.e. news, sports) from distant cities.<br /> <br /> The percentage of E* subs who lose access to networks is roughly 2.5% of total E* subscriber base. And some of these will still have access to 1 or more of the networks.<br /> <br /> And even these people now have an alternative provider.<br /> <br /> Looking at this objectively, the total impact on the American market is pretty damn small. The numbers are that maybe 1/4th of 1% of the people who sub to DBS or cable are going to be impacted and even they have one or more alternatives - either this All-American Direct, or DirecTV, or cable.<br /> <br /> Of course I can understand people losing access to their &quot;old home&quot; stations, as in someone who moved to Oklahoma from Chicago, or now have to deal with the hassle of using an alternative or doing without, being upset. I suspect a lot of people who are upset are those who now can&#039;t qualify with anyone as they were part of E*&#039;s compliance problem.</div>

 

[dfergie]

<div class="bbWrapper">Thanks, I lost CBS HD which wouldn&#039;t hurt so bad...If The owner of the CBS affiliate ( and now owner of the FOX affiliate) from Albuquerque, LIN would deal with E* and from what I have Heard D*(supposed to release HD LiL&#039;s before end of year).... (LIN is not giving anyone their HD affliates, NAB copy this please <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> and deal with them... )</div>

 

[rockymtnhigh]

<div class="bbWrapper">TO THE COURT: IF YOU ARE READING:<br /> <br /> Since the Plaintiffs have provided a link to this thread - you should be aware that they were pretty darn selective in what parts of the Charlie Chat they mentioned. Considering that Echostar ACTUALLY suggested DirecTV or Cable as an alternative...</div>

 

[bowens]

<div class="bbWrapper">I&#039;m afraid that when I get home I&#039;m going to be missing my NBC. There is no local NBC in my market, so I pay 1.50/month to get it out of NY. Is this right? Will I lose this channel?</div>

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="bowens" data-source="post: 738095" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/xen/goto/post?id=738095" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-738095">bowens said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I&#039;m afraid that when I get home I&#039;m going to be missing my NBC. There is no local NBC in my market, so I pay 1.50/month to get it out of NY. Is this right? Will I lose this channel? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Yes you will.</div>

 

[Digital Rain]

<div class="bbWrapper">Why does it seem that the courts are picking on just DISH and not Directv - or will the same fate come to those who have distant networks thu Directv?</div>

 

[dlsnyder]

<div class="bbWrapper">The court order also authorized Dish to provide significantly viewed stations in appropriate markets. Any word on whether or not Dish has started turning those on yet?</div>

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

<div class="bbWrapper">Nope Dish DROPPED all SV&#039;s this morning as well.</div>

 

[whatchel1]

<div class="bbWrapper"><b>Waivers</b><br /> <br /> A good part of the ppl had waivers for their RV&#039;s or due to the fact that the local is running a POS pix quality station. Locals for both ABC &amp; CBS here are in the latter category.</div>

 

[Lifterguy]

<div class="bbWrapper">Does anyone know if the &quot;free antenna&quot; offer applies to people who get LIL but have lost the CBS HD feed? What kind of antenna are they offering?</div>

 

[lakebum431]

<div class="bbWrapper">I seriously doubt it.</div>