Terrible call to DiSH

[John2021]

time to upgrade your sets!!! while DISH rarely has 4K content.. nothing like a good 4K bluray player and t.v. with 4k and HDR with dolby vision with amazing surround sound that immerse one into a movie . if your sets don't support 4K no worries none of the hoppers or joeys will output in 4k resoloution

 

[telstar_1]

Then why's it called a "4k Joey"?

Can a hopper be placed in a location with no tv and have wiring (or wifi) run to multiple sets, and if joeys needed (for add'l same-time users) can they be placed away from TVs as well? Like just stack all needed rx boxes on a shelf in a utility closet, like a system headend.

 

[John2021]

Then why's it called a "4k Joey"?

Can a hopper be placed in a location with no tv and have wiring (or wifi) run to multiple sets, and if joeys needed (for add'l same-time users) can they be placed away from TVs as well? Like just stack all needed rx boxes on a shelf in a utility closet, like a system headend.

Yes the hopper can be placed anywhere but you will need a small t.v. atleast for the guy to set it up!!! also you will need a small screen for things like checking signal strength since functions like that can't be done on the joeys

 

[Bobby]

Then why's it called a "4k Joey"?

Can a hopper be placed in a location with no tv and have wiring (or wifi) run to multiple sets, and if joeys needed (for add'l same-time users) can they be placed away from TVs as well? Like just stack all needed rx boxes on a shelf in a utility closet, like a system headend.

You could do that, Hopper3 and Joeys in a utility closet with HDMI cables from each receiver to the TV locations. There would probably be some restrictions on copper HDMI lengths though. There are fiber HDMI cables available for longer distances. The biggest issue I see is the remotes at the TV locations. I just tested my 54 remotes for different receivers. I went about 60' away from the receivers going through several walls and I could control the married receivers from that distance. YMMV in different circumstances. There are extenders available for those kinds of issues.

So yes, you can do what you ask.

 

[John2021]

You could do that, Hopper3 and Joeys in a utility closet with HDMI cables from each receiver to the TV locations. There would probably be some restrictions on copper HDMI lengths though. There are fiber HDMI cables available for longer distances. The biggest issue I see is the remotes at the TV locations. I just tested my 54 remotes for different receivers. I went about 60' away from the receivers going through several walls and I could control the married receivers from that distance. YMMV in different circumstances. There are extenders available for those kinds of issues.

So yes, you can do what you ask.

Who makes a good extender i heard that some are a complete nightmare to use

 

[Bobby]

Who makes a good extender i heard that some are a complete nightmare to use

Beats me, not in my wheelhouse. I just know they are available for use. As always, do your legwork in advance.

 

[John2021]

Then why's it called a "4k Joey"?

Can a hopper be placed in a location with no tv and have wiring (or wifi) run to multiple sets, and if joeys needed (for add'l same-time users) can they be placed away from TVs as well? Like just stack all needed rx boxes on a shelf in a utility closet, like a system headend.

why don't you want it connected to the internets . just to for warn you they might want to remote in if you need support. plus you can do things like pay your dish acct right through the hopper or a joey via the my dish app.. if it's connected to the internets..

 

[telstar_1]

why don't you want it connected to the internets . just to for warn you they might want to remote in if you need support. plus you can do things like pay your dish acct right through the hopper or a joey via the my dish app.. if it's connected to the internets..

The last thing I would want would be for them to extract payment through the system. I never use PPV and never change programming around or put on holds. As for remote control of system by support, no thank you. Maybe for thee but not for me, as I know their history, and as this thread attests, things haven't improved. They screw up badly enough even with my knowledgeable inputs to them without adding in remote diagnosis. I doubt there's anything they could glean that I could not report from an info screen. As to internet connectivity, why other than for these three possibilities which I have dismissed. I don't even like having my smart tv connected, but it does offer opt-outs for information "sharing," plus I definitely need it for streaming.

Story from back in the DiSH day: We started getting chargebacks from shutoffs of customers of a few months' duration even though we'd installed and serviced them well and properly. Traced a lot of it to PPV- the systems were allowing PPVs to be activated and racked up well into the 3 figures without having to be paid for. So some customers (or more likely their kids, etc.) simply consumed them like candy. Eventually the boxes would finally hit a (high-dollar) limit and stop activating any more. For some that's where it would end. Others got curious about the phone jack on the back and plugged it in to their landline, resulting in both a resumed ability to watch PPV as well as an astronomical bill for the previous consumption, which in many cases went unpaid resulting in shutoff. It sort of put me on (further) notice that this dish outfit didn't necessarily have all of the best customer intentions in mind. Eventually I believe they changed it to require phone connection before any PPVing or set a low dollar limit until connected.

 

[HipKat]

time to upgrade your sets!!! while DISH rarely has 4K content.. nothing like a good 4K bluray player and t.v. with 4k and HDR with dolby vision with amazing surround sound that immerse one into a movie . if your sets don't support 4K no worries none of the hoppers or joeys will output in 4k resoloution

Yes they do when playing a 4K Feed or stream.

 

[HipKat]

The last thing I would want would be for them to extract payment through the system. I never use PPV and never change programming around or put on holds. As for remote control of system by support, no thank you. Maybe for thee but not for me, as I know their history, and as this thread attests, things haven't improved. They screw up badly enough even with my knowledgeable inputs to them without adding in remote diagnosis. I doubt there's anything they could glean that I could not report from an info screen. As to internet connectivity, why other than for these three possibilities which I have dismissed. I don't even like having my smart tv connected, but it does offer opt-outs for information "sharing," plus I definitely need it for streaming.

Story from back in the DiSH day: We started getting chargebacks from shutoffs of customers of a few months' duration even though we'd installed and serviced them well and properly. Traced a lot of it to PPV- the systems were allowing PPVs to be activated and racked up well into the 3 figures without having to be paid for. So some customers (or more likely their kids, etc.) simply consumed them like candy. Eventually the boxes would finally hit a (high-dollar) limit and stop activating any more. For some that's where it would end. Others got curious about the phone jack on the back and plugged it in to their landline, resulting in both a resumed ability to watch PPV as well as an astronomical bill for the previous consumption, which in many cases went unpaid resulting in shutoff. It sort of put me on (further) notice that this dish outfit didn't necessarily have all of the best customer intentions in mind. Eventually I believe they changed it to require phone connection before any PPVing or set a low dollar limit until connected.

"Paranoia will Destroy ya!!"

 

[telstar_1]

How to stop your smart TV from spying on you (and why you should)

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[John2021]

Yes they do when playing a 4K Feed or stream.

ok what i ment is there's no fulltime 4k channel

 

[John2021]

How to stop your smart TV from spying on you (and why you should)

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Id'e just pop a hardcore porn in and let em watch that . if one don't have a VPN your isp knows your every move to. every company has had data breaches it's not just dish Trash-mobile verizon and ATT and so on has had em as well

 

[John2021]

"Paranoia will Destroy ya!!"

It's not like someone's going to show up at the door . it's for advertising BS

 

[John2021]

I would like to meet you HipKat. Come meet me and replace my 1000.2 dish for one of them there new Western Arc two LNB models!!

The new dish works amazing we had downpours. it didn't bother it one bit. the hopper didn't get all crazy and go into streaming mode .. The bigger eyes on the LNB make a difference. i am wondering how it's going to handle being a snow cone in winter once we move again