Using HWS after deactivation

tim3320070

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There was a thread a couple of years ago without an answer- if I cancel Dish, can I use my (owned) Hopper 2 with Sling for OTA recordings? Or is it a door stop at that point?
 

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He would be without an EPG data and so all recordings will lack titile and other data. Unfotunately, the Hoppers do not have the "Edit Recording Name" feauture as the VIP's do. I really miss that feature because it does come in handy now and then.
 

tim3320070

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since I own it and am considering cutting the cord so to speak it might be handy as a recorder for ota, anyone confirm this is possible?
 

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While you might be able to watch OTA programming, provided you leave the dish up, you aren't going to be able to use the DVR function at all.
 

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That used to be the case, yes. I could be mistaken, but MikeD-C05 has a box that I believe is disconnected, or at least not activated, for months and is still working.
 

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That used to be the case, yes. I could be mistaken, but MikeD-C05 has a box that I believe is disconnected, or at least not activated, for months and is still working.
I have a similar setup, but the key is still to leave the receiver connected to the satellite signal. Without the satellite signal, there will be no EPG, and the receiver will not even let you tune to any OTA channel with no guide data at all. (There does not have to be guide data for the specific OTA channel you are trying to tune, there just has to be some guide data anywhere in the guide.)
 

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That used to be the case, yes. I could be mistaken, but MikeD-C05 has a box that I believe is disconnected, or at least not activated, for months and is still working.
My 211k is not authorized any longer ,but is hooked up to the satellite , so I can power my Terk 44 antenna that clips on to the dish and gives both satellite and ota on the same cable. Have to have a second dish for ota ,since I have the hopper 3 and you can 't diplex the signal. But yes,the ota channels work fine and have guide data, but I can't record any of them.
 

pattykay

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My 211k is not authorized any longer ,but is hooked up to the satellite , so I can power my Terk 44 antenna that clips on to the dish and gives both satellite and ota on the same cable. Have to have a second dish for ota ,since I have the hopper 3 and you can 't diplex the signal. But yes,the ota channels work fine and have guide data, but I can't record any of them.
That is because you are using a ViP211k, which will not work as a DVR unless it is activated, because it needs an external hard drive. The question is whether a DVR with a built-in hard drive will still work for recording OTA when it is deactivated. I have had success with a ViP722k, but I have never deactivated any Hopper, so I do not know if the HWS will work. It might also depend on the color of the Smart Card. The older receivers with the purple G3 Smart Card usually give access to more free features (such as free previews, OTA, and DVR functionality) when they are deactivated, while the ones with the white G4 Smart Card usually do not. The HWS is new enough that it probably has the white G4 Smart Card.
 

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That is because you are using a ViP211k, which will not work as a DVR unless it is activated, because it needs an external hard drive. The question is whether a DVR with a built-in hard drive will still work for recording OTA when it is deactivated. I have had success with a ViP722k, but I have never deactivated any Hopper, so I do not know if the HWS will work. It might also depend on the color of the Smart Card. The older receivers with the purple G3 Smart Card usually give access to more free features (such as free previews, OTA, and DVR functionality) when they are deactivated, while the ones with the white G4 Smart Card usually do not. The HWS is new enough that it probably has the white G4 Smart Card.
I can record OTA on my deactivated H2 and I do get guide data for the same OTA channels that I got data for with a subscription.
 

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I did a mover at a customer's house over the summer. Dish was on pause, cust set up mover with smart pack, install was done, cust had her account put on pause again. She had a 722 with Ota indoor antenna connected from which she got a handful of channels, as well as any of the free Dish channels. That's what she watched, and what she was able to record. Kept account on pause to run out contract.

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