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I finally get approval from my condo board to shed my cable chains
and get a non-penetrating roof mounted satellite dish. It took them
two months but victory is mine at last.

So I go to the Voom site to subscribe and...WHAT THE FVCK?!?!

OLD (reasonable) PRICING: Zero setup costs, $80 a month for Va Va
Voom.

NEW (bend over) PRICING: $300 setup costs, $40 a MONTH in receiver
rental fees, and $90 a month for Va Va Voom.

I'd like to formally extend a lone, proud middle finger to VOOM
corporate. This one's for you, boys. ooIoo





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I finally get approval from my condo board to shed my cable chains
and get a non-penetrating roof mounted satellite dish. It took them
two months but victory is mine at last.

So I go to the Voom site to subscribe and...WHAT THE FVCK?!?!

OLD (reasonable) PRICING: Zero setup costs, $80 a month for Va Va
Voom.

NEW (bend over) PRICING: $300 setup costs, $40 a MONTH in receiver
rental fees, and $90 a month for Va Va Voom.

I'd like to formally extend a lone, proud middle finger to VOOM
corporate. This one's for you, boys. ooIoo





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[VOOM] Re: New pricing...

I've been with VOOM since day one, and was disappointed to see the $0
upfront was not extended. Or better yet kept permanently.
Money is never made on hardware or installation fees, I dont know
when that's ever gonna sink in.
I also dont think it was wise raising programming costs so soon
either. This could only slow any momentum VOOM may have had going.
Just my 2 cents


--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, Seawaves <Seawaves.1aw5q8@n...> wrote:
>
> Does this meaning you will not be getting Voom?..lol..try DirecTV
they
> actually want new customers.
>
>
> --
> Seawaves



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RE: [VOOM] Re: New pricing...

I imagine it was to appease the shareholders who may be leaning towards
cutting their losses way too early in the game.

Chris Green


-----Original Message-----
From: berockin1 [mailto:berockin1@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 3:06 PM
To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [VOOM] Re: New pricing...

I've been with VOOM since day one, and was disappointed to see the $0
upfront was not extended. Or better yet kept permanently.
Money is never made on hardware or installation fees, I dont know
when that's ever gonna sink in.
I also dont think it was wise raising programming costs so soon
either. This could only slow any momentum VOOM may have had going.
Just my 2 cents


--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, Seawaves <Seawaves.1aw5q8@n...> wrote:
>
> Does this meaning you will not be getting Voom?..lol..try DirecTV
they
> actually want new customers.
>
>
> --
> Seawaves





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[VOOM] Re: New pricing...

200.00 bucks to install is just way out of line.



--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Green" <cgreen@g...> wrote:
> I imagine it was to appease the shareholders who may be leaning
towards
> cutting their losses way too early in the game.
>
> Chris Green
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: berockin1 [mailto:berockin1@y...]
> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 3:06 PM
> To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [VOOM] Re: New pricing...
>
> I've been with VOOM since day one, and was disappointed to see the
$0
> upfront was not extended. Or better yet kept permanently.
> Money is never made on hardware or installation fees, I dont know
> when that's ever gonna sink in.
> I also dont think it was wise raising programming costs so soon
> either. This could only slow any momentum VOOM may have had going.
> Just my 2 cents
>
>
> --- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, Seawaves <Seawaves.1aw5q8@n...> wrote:
> >
> > Does this meaning you will not be getting Voom?..lol..try DirecTV
> they
> > actually want new customers.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Seawaves
>
>
>
>
>
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I am hearing a uncomfirmed buzz about another promo coming out....

$49.95 installed.

More as I know it.

Stay tuned to SatelliteGuys.US for more details. :D
 
[VOOM] Re: New pricing...

Before moving to this townhome condo I'd had DirecTV with two
DirecTivo units and been happy as can be. I was excited about trying
Voom at the old prices, but now...? Forget it.


--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, Seawaves <Seawaves.1aw5q8@n...> wrote:
>
> Does this meaning you will not be getting Voom?..lol..try DirecTV
they
> actually want new customers.
>
>
> --
> Seawaves



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[VOOM] Re: New pricing...

Stage3a4,
I will probably be leaving VOOM because of an issue other than you
have. But VOOM is still a very good value at $89.95. It won't be if
they don't add core SD channels by Jan 1. I agree the install fee is
not competitive, but if you want HD programming and Unique exclusives
then the monthly fee is not unreasonable. Don't give up on VOOM that
easily. I will be going back to Direct TV, but not because of the
monthly price, maybe becuase of the install fee. If you don't want to
lease, just buy the equipment.

Ken

--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "stage3a4" <raudi77@h...> wrote:
> Before moving to this townhome condo I'd had DirecTV with two
> DirecTivo units and been happy as can be. I was excited about trying
> Voom at the old prices, but now...? Forget it.
>
>
> --- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, Seawaves <Seawaves.1aw5q8@n...> wrote:
> >
> > Does this meaning you will not be getting Voom?..lol..try DirecTV
> they
> > actually want new customers.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Seawaves



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RE: [VOOM] Re: New pricing...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: berockin1 [mailto:berockin1@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 1:06 PM
> To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [VOOM] Re: New pricing...
>
> I've been with VOOM since day one, and was disappointed to
> see the $0 upfront was not extended. Or better yet kept permanently.
> Money is never made on hardware or installation fees, I dont
> know when that's ever gonna sink in.

Ahh, but money can be lost on hardware. Let's not overlook that. The
installation cost may be subsidizing that hardware loss to some degree.
Assuming Installs Inc. doesn't have them by the short hairs with some
ridiculously high agreed price for installs.

The current cost per box for HD STBs is still several hundred dollars. The
next generation DVRs will probably still come in at $400 ea or more with
chip integration. I based this on the target of $300-$350 they have already
stated, and assume there will be some overshoot. Takes several years of a
loyal customer to recoup that cost.

To summarize, maybe it's not so much an effort to make money on hardware as
it is to mitigate the losses.

Bob



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[VOOM] Re: New pricing...

>From a customer standpoint buying the box sucks because VOOM
prevents you from reselling the box. At least DirecTV boxes can be
resold on ebay if you leave early or upgrade your equipment.

This policy is stupid because VOOMs obsession for control is only
costing them customers.

--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Mankin" <bob@c...> wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: berockin1 [mailto:berockin1@y...]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 1:06 PM
> > To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [VOOM] Re: New pricing...
> >
> > I've been with VOOM since day one, and was disappointed to
> > see the $0 upfront was not extended. Or better yet kept
permanently.
> > Money is never made on hardware or installation fees, I dont
> > know when that's ever gonna sink in.
>
> Ahh, but money can be lost on hardware. Let's not overlook that.
The
> installation cost may be subsidizing that hardware loss to some
degree.
> Assuming Installs Inc. doesn't have them by the short hairs with
some
> ridiculously high agreed price for installs.
>
> The current cost per box for HD STBs is still several hundred
dollars. The
> next generation DVRs will probably still come in at $400 ea or
more with
> chip integration. I based this on the target of $300-$350 they
have already
> stated, and assume there will be some overshoot. Takes several
years of a
> loyal customer to recoup that cost.
>
> To summarize, maybe it's not so much an effort to make money on
hardware as
> it is to mitigate the losses.
>
> Bob



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[VOOM] Re: New pricing...

Exactly - eliminating my option to sell a used VOOM box means I'll never
buy their equipment, period.

And conversely, they are now raping would-be customers on a per-box
rental fee.


--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "annexmember7"
<annexmember7@y...> wrote:
> From a customer standpoint buying the box sucks because VOOM
> prevents you from reselling the box. At least DirecTV boxes can be
> resold on ebay if you leave early or upgrade your equipment.
>
> This policy is stupid because VOOMs obsession for control is only
> costing them customers.
>
> --- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Mankin" <bob@c...> wrote:
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: berockin1 [mailto:berockin1@y...]
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 1:06 PM
> > > To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [VOOM] Re: New pricing...
> > >
> > > I've been with VOOM since day one, and was disappointed to
> > > see the $0 upfront was not extended. Or better yet kept
> permanently.
> > > Money is never made on hardware or installation fees, I dont
> > > know when that's ever gonna sink in.
> >
> > Ahh, but money can be lost on hardware. Let's not overlook that.
> The
> > installation cost may be subsidizing that hardware loss to some
> degree.
> > Assuming Installs Inc. doesn't have them by the short hairs with
> some
> > ridiculously high agreed price for installs.
> >
> > The current cost per box for HD STBs is still several hundred
> dollars. The
> > next generation DVRs will probably still come in at $400 ea or
> more with
> > chip integration. I based this on the target of $300-$350 they
> have already
> > stated, and assume there will be some overshoot. Takes several
> years of a
> > loyal customer to recoup that cost.
> >
> > To summarize, maybe it's not so much an effort to make money on
> hardware as
> > it is to mitigate the losses.
> >
> > Bob



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[VOOM] Re: New pricing...

I agree, and I'd subscribe at $89. However, there is an addditional $10
for the first receiver and $15 for each additional receiver. That's an
extra $40 a month for me! And there's no way I'm buying the receivers
without even knowing whether I'll like the service or if VOOM will even
be around a year from now.

They've pretty much left me with no options.


--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "kfried001" <kfried@c...> wrote:
> Stage3a4,
> I will probably be leaving VOOM because of an issue other than you
> have. But VOOM is still a very good value at $89.95. It won't be if
> they don't add core SD channels by Jan 1. I agree the install fee is
> not competitive, but if you want HD programming and Unique
exclusives
> then the monthly fee is not unreasonable. Don't give up on VOOM that
> easily. I will be going back to Direct TV, but not because of the
> monthly price, maybe becuase of the install fee. If you don't want to
> lease, just buy the equipment.
>
> Ken
>
> --- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "stage3a4" <raudi77@h...> wrote:
> > Before moving to this townhome condo I'd had DirecTV with two
> > DirecTivo units and been happy as can be. I was excited about
trying
> > Voom at the old prices, but now...? Forget it.
> >
> >
> > --- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, Seawaves
<Seawaves.1aw5q8@n...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Does this meaning you will not be getting Voom?..lol..try DirecTV
> > they
> > > actually want new customers.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Seawaves



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Give it a month or so before u go with another SAT co. im sure that install will drop down. I waited from OCT to MAY for the 0$ deal

just dont get yourself stuck in a 1 yr contract, and stuck with poor PQ, VOOM is worth the wait



IMO

MR>C
 
[VOOM] Re: New pricing...

If I had some indication from VOOM that the pricing was about to
change (hint hint Wilt) then I might hang on for a month, MAX.

--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, Technut <Technut.1axotk@n...> wrote:
>
> Give it a month or so before u go with another SAT co. im sure that
> install will drop down. I waited from OCT to MAY for the 0$ deal
>
> just dont get yourself stuck in a 1 yr contract, and stuck with poor
> PQ, VOOM is worth the wait
>
>
>
> IMO
>
> MR>C
>
>
> --
> Technut



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[VOOM] Re: New pricing...

The rental fee is high, I pay Cablevision $8.40 give or take a few
cents per month to rent two HD STB's. How can the CV STB's be $4.00
or so per month but the VOOM STB cost 9.50 for one ???



Exactly - eliminating my option to sell a used VOOM box means I'll
never
buy their equipment, period.

And conversely, they are now raping would-be customers on a per-box
rental fee.




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