WFAA ABC DALLAS 8.3 now has "THIS"

boba

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Does anyone else have "THIS" service it seems to be old movies and TV shows and I would expect some connection to Disney because of ABC. It is an improvement over the TRAFFIC channel it replaced but these seem to be really old shows.
 
THiS KC is awesome, I think there's also one in Tampa Bay. I believe that there's a link between THiS and MGM, but I haven't proven it yet. Too bad it's all 480i 4:3. :(
 
We have it here in Lubbock as 11.2, the only drawback is it takes bandwidth from 11.1 for the 1080i NBC HD signal.
 
My THiS is "robbing" bandwidth from CW, which I don't watch, but I also have NBC ActionWeather on 41.2, so I wouldn't know the difference. 41.1 (KSHB) still looks better OTA than it does from Dish. ;)
 
The network's basis is the library of MGM material not taken by Turner in the 1986 merger (in short Turner bought MGM and UA, sold the rights to 95% of its library to his channels, and then sold the remainder back off).

Cartoons are from a Canadian outfit called Cookie Jar TV.

Go here:

THIStv - Check local listings for availability
 
Plus Mr. Ed and Patty Duke, Sea Hunt, Outer Limits for those of you from the TV generation. I have noticed Stargate SG1 (the early years) on the weekends. They also do themed days - picking an actor or genre.
 
Old war movies and John Wayne last night.

Was actually a pretty good night for watching This network.

In a 6 Mhz signal, there is enough room for one high definition signal and two sub channels in standard definition. It is called 8 VSB - 8VSB - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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There is only "room" for 1HD+2SD because not enough emphasis was put on that 1HD stream to start with.

Satelliteguys.us is the SECOND LARGEST home audio/video web site in the WORLD. You are not in a room full of idiots.
 
We have a channel carrying 2 720p feeds and a 480p feed all on one channel.

The HD channels are a bit soft (8.1Mbps for 720p) but definitely 1000% better than SD which is about 2.2Mbps on the 3rd channel.
 
Woooow. I was watching "The Dark Crystal" from a DVD release dated 1999, and it worked out to be about 3.8Mbps. I felt like my eyes were going to start watering at any minute.

We have a religious channel in KC that multicasts 5 480i streams on one channel, and it's totally unwatchable on anything over a 19" screen. I wonder if even they are using the full 3.8Mbps on those five streams.
 
Rabbitears.info has listings of many stations across the country and the bitrates they are using.

Info is gathered locally by volunteers with a USB digital tuner and a TS reader, then sent to Rabbitears.info for inclusion in their tables.

If its KTAJ you are talking about their bitrates are 2.58, 4.28, 4.67, 2.23 and 5.23 for channels 16.1-16.5 respectively.

They are probably using a variable multiplexer that balances the bitrate with the complexity of the picture being sent over each different channel, so a static screen would for the moment have a low bitrate, while a high motion screen would demand a higher bitrate, assuming one of the other channels could be prioritized lower - a real juggling act.
 
We have a religious channel in KC that multicasts 5 480i streams on one channel, and it's totally unwatchable on anything over a 19" screen. I wonder if even they are using the full 3.8Mbps on those five streams.

must be TBN

We have the same thing here in Minneapolis but its on a Low powered digital station. Noticed that JCTV (the music video one) usually has the most bandwidth of the 5
 
We have a channel carrying 2 720p feeds and a 480p feed all on one channel.

The HD channels are a bit soft (8.1Mbps for 720p) but definitely 1000% better than SD which is about 2.2Mbps on the 3rd channel.

Your tuner will usually uplink the 720P signal up to the level of 1080I - so there is no reason to fret when the signal is not 1080I
 
Let's get back on topic. If you want to argue about HDTV resolutions start another thread in another forum. This was a question about a programming service and where they are available.
 
I'm sorry boba, but I feel compelled to straighten this out.

Your tuner will usually uplink the 720P signal up to the level of 1080I - so there is no reason to fret when the signal is not 1080I
:rolleyes:Again, an unthoughtful reply.

JB, You don't know if this member has a STB for a tuner or if it is the displays built-in tuner. Thats first. Second, you have no idea what type of display he has. Both of these facts needs to be known before you jump right in and make statements like that.

First, it isn't "uplink". It is scaled, or upconverted. Second, if it is a STB then the output is user selectable. So if the incoming HD signal is 720p, the user can have the output to 480p, 720p, or 1080i, his choice.

Now depending on the type of display, regardless of the input signal, and this includes built-in tuners, the input signal is virtually moot since the signal will be converted to the displays native resolution. Some LCDs are 720p natural resolution. So in the case of having a STB, a 720p input signal JB, and using your logic that the tuner will scale that to 1080i, it doesn't matter because the TV is going to down convert to its native resolution of 720p. If the display is a newer LCD then the signal (720p or 1080i) will be scaled to 1080p. If a 480p signal is the source signal, that 480p will be converted to 720p or 1080p, again depending on the display type.

If the display is CRT then again, the incoming signal (480p, 720p) is going to be scaled to 1080i.

There is much more but I don't have the time to keep correcting you JB, so this should be enough to get you straightened out on how this all works. I really hope you take my advice and put some real thought into your replies, before just posting willy-nilly.
 

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