The FCC just gave you a reason to hold off on buying a 4K TV

[comfortably_numb]

That number is not growing as younger people move away from pay TV models, they aren't embracing OTA, they are embracing streaming.

As to the ATSC3.0 stuff, well adapters will come out as they always do if/when it becomes an actual issue.

http://www.thesimpledollar.com/cord-cutters-why-millennials-are-saying-goodbye-to-cable-tv/

"Why millenials are saying goodbye to cable TV"

"ON MY TV
As mentioned, some cable companies are reaching out to cord cutters, offering packages that include high-speed Internet and TV via a digital antenna. Now, if you’re a millennial, you might be thinking, “Why would I need an antenna in 2016?” Here’s why: The four major networks (CBS, FOX, NBC, and ABC), PBS, and the CW, as well as many smaller networks, broadcast digitally over the air in most markets, meaning you can watch each channel with that antenna — for free. If you just want to watch popular shows like “NCIS” or “Brooklyn Nine-Nine” and, say, the local news or Sunday’s football game, that antenna might be all you need. Just make sure you have the right one. AntennaWeb’s handy tool can help you figure out how close you are to the nearest transmitter, what type of antenna you’ll need, and how many channels you’ll receive. This will be the cheapest option for cord cutters, but it’ll also yield the least content. You’re basically living in the ’50s, at the mercy of network programming. But, like we said, it’s free."

 

[mwdxer1]

Out here on the rural Oregon coast, our number of OTA channels have jumped from only 3 analog a few years ago to 16 digital channels. OTA antennas have popped up all over.

 

[JM42]

I think take up of 3.0 will get a lot of push back. Unlike HD there is virtually no obvious consumer benefit.

The initial digital transition was delayed for years and occurred with a major physical change to panels and a clearly obvious SD to HD quality improvement. HD to 4K just doesn't have the same visual impact.

With no simulcast or subsidies planned(as of now) the cut over will kill 99% of the actual OTA consumers unless delayed until the ecosystem supports it.

Seems like its almost an acknowledgement OTA isn'the a big deal anymore, but still give the locals need an excuse to exist with less bandwidth.

 

[comfortably_numb]

I think take up of 3.0 will get a lot of push back. Unlike HD there is virtually no obvious consumer benefit.

The initial digital transition was delayed for years and occurred with a major physical change to panels and a clearly obvious SD to HD quality improvement. HD to 4K just doesn't have the same visual impact.

With no simulcast or subsidies planned(as of now) the cut over will kill 99% of the actual OTA consumers unless delayed until the ecosystem supports it.

Seems like its almost an acknowledgement OTA isn'the a big deal anymore, but still give the locals need an excuse to exist with less bandwidth.

They do have to simulcast. It says so right there in the article.

 

[Juan]

So how many broadcasters have stopped broadcasting? Parts of the spectrum are gone, but the locals have just moved to other frequencies.

there is a list somewhere in these forums..mainly shop at home channels..some now use shared facilities (Like North Dakota)..

 

[Juan]

I didn't realize that the broadcast from the Towers reached Moscow, Russia.

moscow is a village in the town of russia New York..not far from Poland, NY

 

[charlesrshell]

moscow is a village in the town of russia New York..not far from Poland, NY

WOW

 

[JSheridan]

moscow is a village in the town of russia New York..not far from Poland, NY

That's in Herkimer County and several hundred miles from where the Twin Towers were. If that's where you live there's no way you got a TV signal from there.

 

[navychop]

Doesn't sound like Idaho.

 

[Juan]

That's in Herkimer County and several hundred miles from where the Twin Towers were. If that's where you live there's no way you got a TV signal from there.

I don't live there..that's just my virtual location

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[comfortably_numb]

there is a list somewhere in these forums..mainly shop at home channels..some now use shared facilities (Like North Dakota)..

I would be more than happy if some of the shop at home channels went off the air. Too many of them as it is.

 

[Juan]

I would be more than happy if some of the shop at home channels went off the air. Too many of them as it is.

eventually they will all be gone

 

[comfortably_numb]

eventually they will all be gone

Juan, what are you smokin'?

 

[HobbyTalk]

so you just buy a tuner..OTA is fading away as more frequencies are stolen

Really? How many OTA channels are there now with digital after frequencies were sold off compared analog? How many stations had subchannels when all we had was analog?

 

[Juan]

Really? How many OTA channels are there now with digital after frequencies were sold off compared analog? How many stations had subchannels when all we had was analog?

the frequencies themselves didn't change from analog to digital..some stations chose to change frequencies to reach more people (went from VHF to UHF mostly) and now the only channels available. TV goes to channel 51 right now but they are being forced to move so the spectrum can be used for cellular

here is a good link
http://current.org/2015/12/a-guide-to-the-fcc-spectrum-auction/

 

[Juan]

Juan, what are you smokin'?

im smokin what the FCC is selling

 

[HobbyTalk]

the frequencies themselves didn't change from analog to digital..some stations chose to change frequencies to reach more people (went from VHF to UHF mostly) and now the only channels available. TV goes to channel 51 right now but they are being forced to move so the spectrum can be used for cellular

here is a good link
http://current.org/2015/12/a-guide-to-the-fcc-spectrum-auction/

And you didn't answer the question I asked?

 

[Juan]

And you didn't answer the question I asked?

i did..there is no such thing as a digital frequency..obviously there were no analog sub channels..as the number of frequencies decreases..the number of sub channels will fall too

 

[Bobby]

I have heard that with ATSC 3.0 there will be the ability to have 10 HD channels on a single channel. Of course there will be less 4k channels possible.

 

[KAB]

I have heard that with ATSC 3.0 there will be the ability to have 10 HD channels on a single channel. Of course there will be less 4k channels possible.

I hope compression technology improves greatly by then.