Dish Network Big 10 Notice

As far as im concerned the people at Directv are idiots for giving in and paying their price. They should have put up a fight for their customers to avoid a potential price increase to carry this network.

I could see your point if there was a big price difference between D* and E* but there isn't, in some cases D* can actually be cheaper then E*. With all the battles that E* has had with content providers, dropping or not adding channels due to the costs, shouldn't there be a bigger price difference between the two providers?
 
It will be interesting to see once D* gets their HD channels up. They may change their cost structure and packages. I can't believe they won't follow suit and charge HD the same way E* does.
 
It will be interesting to see once D* gets their HD channels up. They may change their cost structure and packages. I can't believe they won't follow suit and charge HD the same way E* does.

Maybe in the spring with the usual round of increases, but so far everyone at D*, including the CEO, has said on numerous occasions that when they light up all the new HD this year there won't be a price increase.
 
As I stated earlier in this thread, I completely agree with your points Claude. My issue is this "news release" from Dish. It just completely smacks of, "be lucky for what you have". If Dish would've let sleeping dogs lie (lay? sleep? Oh, whatever...LOL) by not issuing that, I would side with them 100 percent.

And you're right, it's total extortion by BTN. And the fact it's E*'s rival that did secure that network doesn't help matters. On the flip-side of that coin, it really does help substantiate the argument that if you like sports D* is the way to go, if you like family oriented programming then choose E*

If you want both sports AND family programming then choose D*. :D
 
I could see your point if there was a big price difference between D* and E* but there isn't, in some cases D* can actually be cheaper then E*. With all the battles that E* has had with content providers, dropping or not adding channels due to the costs, shouldn't there be a bigger price difference between the two providers?

rad,you are right on the money here in my opinion,thats all you ever hear from Charlie when it comes to adding or in this case not adding new channels.Plus throw in your statement about dropping them as well.Could not agree w/u more.
 
Hey guys...just FYI and this only a rumor from the other satellite forum. Apparently a new test channel has been added unexpectedly to the Dish lineup....and someone over there swears its the BTN. Also, an anonymous guy posted on my Purdue message board that Dish and BTN have a deal in the works. Its interesting that the posts are from two different people at that same time on two different message boards.

Can any of you guys check and confirm?

439 TEMP ADDED TO Tp 19 on EchoStar 8 at 110w MPEG2 SD
 
Any E* sub who's holding on, hoping for E* to pick up the BTN, needs to open his eyes and stop living in denial. E* isn't going to carry the BTN. Period. End of sentence. And rightly so, in my opinion.

The BTN in and of itself wouldn't be so bad. A transponder could be found somewhere to support it, and the fees wouldn't be all that bad.

But next year, the SEC Network would start, then the PAC-10 and Big-12 networks, then the ACC and Big East, and finally every conference has it's own network. Eventually, ESPN, NBC, ABC and CBS have to ante up more cash for the worthwhile games. Now the subs are paying a lot more, first to the conference networks, and second to ESPN for their increased costs.

Soon the free networks will stop carrying college football and basketball altogether. The BTN is a test case for the schools. If it succeeds, they will all make a lot of money, not from the networks and advertising like they do now, but from all of us.
 
But next year, the SEC Network would start, then the PAC-10 and Big-12 networks, then the ACC and Big East, and finally every conference has it's own network. Eventually, ESPN, NBC, ABC and CBS have to ante up more cash for the worthwhile games. Now the subs are paying a lot more, first to the conference networks, and second to ESPN for their increased costs.

Soon the free networks will stop carrying college football and basketball altogether. The BTN is a test case for the schools. If it succeeds, they will all make a lot of money, not from the networks and advertising like they do now, but from all of us.

I'll be willing to pay when the CAA Network launches, and not until!

Fight on, Towson Tigers!
 
Hey guys...just FYI and this only a rumor from the other satellite forum. Apparently a new test channel has been added unexpectedly to the Dish lineup....and someone over there swears its the BTN. Also, an anonymous guy posted on my Purdue message board that Dish and BTN have a deal in the works. Its interesting that the posts are from two different people at that same time on two different message boards.

Can any of you guys check and confirm?

439 TEMP ADDED TO Tp 19 on EchoStar 8 at 110w MPEG2 SD

I read that post too. He's saying that Temp at 439 is indeed BTN.
 
Any E* sub who's holding on, hoping for E* to pick up the BTN, needs to open his eyes and stop living in denial. E* isn't going to carry the BTN. Period. End of sentence. And rightly so, in my opinion.

The BTN in and of itself wouldn't be so bad. A transponder could be found somewhere to support it, and the fees wouldn't be all that bad.

But next year, the SEC Network would start, then the PAC-10 and Big-12 networks, then the ACC and Big East, and finally every conference has it's own network. Eventually, ESPN, NBC, ABC and CBS have to ante up more cash for the worthwhile games. Now the subs are paying a lot more, first to the conference networks, and second to ESPN for their increased costs.

Soon the free networks will stop carrying college football and basketball altogether. The BTN is a test case for the schools. If it succeeds, they will all make a lot of money, not from the networks and advertising like they do now, but from all of us.

I totally agree with you in hoping BTN a violent quick death. They are circumventing the free market and trying to force a demand that doesn't exist. Diehard BigTen fans aren't the mainstream in any state even Michigan. However, I wouldn't say Charlie will NEVER add BTN. What I would say is that Charlie will NEVER add BTN BEFORE Comcast does.
 
I totally agree with you in hoping BTN a violent quick death. They are circumventing the free market and trying to force a demand that doesn't exist. Diehard BigTen fans aren't the mainstream in any state even Michigan. However, I wouldn't say Charlie will NEVER add BTN. What I would say is that Charlie will NEVER add BTN BEFORE Comcast does.

The free market is exactly what allows a company like this to start up. The aren't cicumventing anything.
 
The free market is exactly what allows a company like this to start up. The aren't cicumventing anything.

The advertising market WHICH IS THE GREATEST FREE MARKET(I WANT MORE COMMERCIALS. I love them. Commercials mean somebody else is paying for something, AND I'M NOT!) clearly didn't value the B10 as much as the B10 thought it should so it's trying to force people who don't demand the B10 at all to pay for it. That's hardly free market. Sure, I'm aware that ala carte cable/dbs is impossible, but there is a happy medium between ala carte and every sports entity being able to get a NO BID CONTRACT paid for by every single American.
 
Commercials mean somebody else is paying for something, AND I'M NOT!)

If you buy the advertised products, then you're paying for the advertising and hence, the programming. The cost of advertising is built into the products we all buy. "Free" TV is never free. To cite the most extreme example, if you think that Super Bowl broadcast every year has no effect on your pocketbook, you are truly mistaken. The same goes for the Big Ten game of the week on ABC.
 
I would be *VERY* happy if Charlie created *The Sports Package* that included all the damn sports channels.. all the espns, btn, nfl network, blah blah blah.. and charged people and arm and a leg for it and kept it off my bill..

let him charge 50 bux a month for that and drop everyone else's bill at least 30-40 bux.. then you can get all your new channels at the premium you're willing to pay without effecting the premium I don't want to pay.. :)
 
I would be *VERY* happy if Charlie created *The Sports Package* that included all the damn sports channels.. all the espns, btn, nfl network, blah blah blah.. and charged people and arm and a leg for it and kept it off my bill..

let him charge 50 bux a month for that and drop everyone else's bill at least 30-40 bux.. then you can get all your new channels at the premium you're willing to pay without effecting the premium I don't want to pay.. :)

I'm willing to pay for BTN, ESPN, and NFLN, so you don't have to, as long as you're willing to pay for Lifetime, We, and Oxygen, so I don't have to! :eureka
 
I would be *VERY* happy if Charlie created *The Sports Package* that included all the damn sports channels.. all the espns, btn, nfl network, blah blah blah.. and charged people and arm and a leg for it and kept it off my bill..

let him charge 50 bux a month for that and drop everyone else's bill at least 30-40 bux.. then you can get all your new channels at the premium you're willing to pay without effecting the premium I don't want to pay.. :)

Without a lot of the sport channels you wouldn't have a lot of the other channels. Thus, you wouldn't have much left to watch. Maybe shopping networks.
 
If you buy the advertised products, then you're paying for the advertising and hence, the programming. The cost of advertising is built into the products we all buy. "Free" TV is never free. To cite the most extreme example, if you think that Super Bowl broadcast every year has no effect on your pocketbook, you are truly mistaken. The same goes for the Big Ten game of the week on ABC.


Exactly, and advertised products are ala carte. You don't have to purchase every single item that advertises during MNF just to buy a a sixpack of bud light. I'm generally a CHEAPO shopper who buys a lot of instore brands.
 

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